Michael Moore's Latest Target: Your HMO

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I would say that most people are willing to give a helping hand to people willing to help themself. I have belong to several organizations which help in the comunity and I see so many people who are willing to receive help but are totaly unwilling to help themself. The group I belong to now has a very,very tough time finding people who are not just looking for a hand out rather than a helping hand.

Absolutely agree with that!

originally quoted by matty:

Regardless of how or why it happens, do they still not deserve a helping hand? I guess the prevailing opinion would be they don't, considering how we treat our sick, elderly, mentally ill, and homeless in this country.

I'm going to break this down cause you mentioned a lot of different scenarios.
1- "the sick". Depends on how they got sick. Did they get sick because they were having unprotected sex and didn't care? If so, then tough crap. If they got sick from just living life, then yes, I care.
2- "the Elderly." You probably wouldn't expect this from me cause you guys don't understand where I'm coming from, but you can't help but get old, and I firmly believe that the money we waste on the unwed mothers plopping out babies should go to the elderly that really can't help themselves. I donate, and offer my time to the local nursing home...shock eh? Because they actually can't help themselves when they are that old.
3- "The mentally ill". See above.
4- "The homeless". I can not think of a scenario where a homeless person didn't do that to themselves by making piss poor decisions, then getting a "poor me" attitude. They are there because of them, no one else. Self responsibility people.