Ted Nugent on Gun Control

[Lady Brave]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Yes, but it seems the issue is always 1 of 2 things.
1- They don't want a jail around them.
2- They don't want to pay for it.
I think we should pay for it. It's a problem and it needs to be addressed. Of course, I don't think they should have the luxuries of modern day living, they should be fed slop (so to speak), they should have no TV, no weight room, no rights. We coddle inmates, and I think the general public knows it and therefore is unwilling to pay for a state of the art facility.
If the people are too dumb to pay for it, it should happen anyway.

The majority of people who are housed in local jails have not been convicted of an offense. There is a slight difference in how those inmates are treated as compared to those who have been convicted of an offense and are serving active time. However, those who are in state prisons have more personal freedoms than those in local jails.

Our inmates have TV and that's all. They are not even allowed to play any type of games due to betting and fights breaking out. I've eaten the food. It's slighter better than slop, but not by much.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Lady Brave

The majority of people who are housed in local jails have not been convicted of an offense. There is a slight difference in how those inmates are treated as compared to those who have been convicted of an offense and are serving active time. However, those who are in state prisons have more personal freedoms than those in local jails.

Our inmates have TV and that's all. They are not even allowed to play any type of games due to betting and fights breaking out. I've eaten the food. It's slighter better than slop, but not by much.

Alright...since we obviously can't fix the local jails, how about more state institutions? They are overcrowded too.

[Lady Brave]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Alright...since we obviously can't fix the local jails, how about more state institutions? They are overcrowded too.

I'm all for more state prisons. Another thing we need is more mental health facilities. A good portion of the inmate population consists of individuals that need treatment for mental health problems. A psych doctor stopping by the facility a few times a week doesn't cut it.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Lady Brave

I'm all for more state prisons. Another thing we need is more mental health facilities. A good portion of the inmate population consists of individuals that need treatment for mental health problems. A psych doctor stopping by the facility a few times a week doesn't cut it.

I'll take your word for that, cause I would guess there are a lot that are "faking it". If they had a lawyer worth their salt, they would have argued insanity.
I think the country needs more capital punishment. I also think we could use more public hangings in town squares. Show people the consequences to actions. There is a reason those countries that cut off hands when you steal have low theft rates.

[Lady Brave]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I'll take your word for that, cause I would guess there are a lot that are "faking it". If they had a lawyer worth their salt, they would have argued insanity.
I think the country needs more corporal punishment. I also think we could use more public hangings in town squares. Show people the consequences to actions. There is a reason those countries that cut off hands when you steal have low theft rates.

Corporal punishment? You want us to spank them too? LOL, I'm just messing with you.

I don't have a problem with capital punishment. I do have a problem with the amount of time it takes for the appeals process. Around here, you're gonna sit on death row at least 10-15 years.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Lady Brave

Corporal punishment? You want us to spank them too? LOL, I'm just messing with you.

Ummm, I don't know what you're talking about, it says capital punishment in my last post. LOL.
I didn't even notice I did that until you said it.

I don't have a problem with capital punishment. I do have a problem with the amount of time it takes for the appeals process. Around here, you're gonna sit on death row at least 10-15 years.

I agree. That is beyond moronic that we the tax payers spend all that money to keep them alive. If they are convicted, they should be on death row no longer than 1 year.
I say not longer than 2 months to get their affairs in order.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I agree. That is beyond moronic that we the tax payers spend all that money to keep them alive. If they are convicted, they should be on death row no longer than 1 year.
I say not longer than 2 months to get their affairs in order.

I wasn't against capital punishment until I did a report on it a few years ago and found out that it's not a deterrent. If it won't keep more people from dying, then what is the point? Revenge? That's a pretty useless reason for the government to kill someone. I just don't see the point in it. I do think there are people who do things that deserve to have them killed, I would have killed Saddam and I would kill Usama if given the chance, but they have committed far more atrocity than most people on death row.

Now, what people will misunderstand (and probably try to imply) is that, in no way, am I saying we should be softer on crime. However, if capital punishment is not a deterrent, what is the point? Plus, capital punishment is ridiculously expensive, the following is from a Duke University study:

The death penalty costs North Carolina $2.16 million per execution over the costs of a non-death penalty murder case with a sentence of imprisonment for life.

So, it costs more and doesn't deter crimes. What is the advantage again?

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I also think we could use more public hangings in town squares. Show people the consequences to actions. There is a reason those countries that cut off hands when you steal have low theft rates.

Wow, so you think the Saudi justice system is one to be emulated?

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Wow, so you think the Saudi justice system is one to be emulated?

Did I say that?
Nothing like taking a post out of context eh?

ps- we used to have public hangings here in the good ole USA.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Did I say that?
Nothing like taking a post out of context eh?

ps- we used to have public hangings here in the good ole USA.

My only point was that we shouldn't emulate countries that cut the hands off of low-level criminals. I also simply cannot agree with the whole public hangings deal.