How many future HR's for Bonds?

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Why do people keep saying this? Bonds admitted to the grand jury that he took "the clear" which is a steroid. He just said he didn't realize that it was a performance enhancing drug, he thought it was flaxseed oil.
So yes, it has been proven, it just hasn't been "proven" that he did it on purpose. (but we all know he did, and it will be proven that he did eventually.)

ok, lets say bonds admittingly took steroids. they were not against the rules that baseball had in place. so why all the outrage? do you think he was the only one? so, just because he is setting records, he is the one that gets penalized. what about roger clemens? there were NO rules in place to penalized ANYONE from that time frame. the owners and the players did what they had to do, to make baseball popular again. now they are paying the price

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by dmek25

ok, lets say bonds admittingly took steroids. they were not against the rules that baseball had in place. so why all the outrage? do you think he was the only one? so, just because he is setting records, he is the one that gets penalized. what about roger clemens? there were NO rules in place to penalized ANYONE from that time frame. the owners and the players did what they had to do, to make baseball popular again. now they are paying the price

Where did you get that from? There have been rules in places against taking steroids for many, many years. It just wasn't enforced with drug tests.

You keep bringing up Roger Clemens, and while I will agree, I do think he took steroids (how else do you have a 2.98, 1.87, and 2.30 era in consecutive seasons at the ages of 41, 42, and 43?) who is blaming him? But who has pointed their finger at Clemens? Who said, he for sure took roids? There is a plethera of people pointing at Bonds, or Sosa etc, but no one at Clemens. I'm not saying that means he's innocent, but it does show that Bonds is amazingly guilty.
You last sentence: "the owners and the players did what they had to do, to make baseball popular again. now they are paying the price" is dead on accurate. They killed baseball by allowing these things. This is why baseball is now my 3rd favorite sport behind Football and NASCAR.