Rule Clarification:

[BleedBurgundy]

Anyone think that Roy Williams had a helmet to helmet hit on Gardner on the final play?

[offiss]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

Anyone think that Roy Williams had a helmet to helmet hit on Gardner on the final play?

You beat me to it BB, I was waiting for a flag on that, but considering the job the ref's did on us tonight, there's no way they would make that call, I missed the first half [bowling] but caught the highlight's, those pass interference call's, and none call's, were a joke, I also wanted a challenge on the pass play to bryant when he leaped over Smoot, it looked like he fell on the ball, then resecured it as he rolled over, but as usual our booth official Stevey Wonder didn't see it, like all the rest of the call's he's missed over the last 3 week's, Gibb's threw the flag on that option pass on his own, he said he didn't hear anything from the booth [ what a shock ] so he took a shot hoping they just didn't have the angle on the replay yet, Gardner great game, how much can we bet that he drop's at least 3 easy passes next week? He's not fooling me with tonight's performance O-line I grade a C, fairly unimpressive, D- I will give a B, they still have to be more disiplined in their coverages.

[Skins1573]

Offiss, I disagree with your comment on Gardner. I think if you get him the ball early in the game and often things will happen. I think durning the giants game he wasn't thrown too until the 2nd quater. I don't here you saying anything about coles and the drops he had (not includeing the 1 R. Williams hit him hard, which i think was helmet to helmet) Your opinion, which is cool, and I just see diffrent on this one. Also I think we need to get J.Thrash in the game, especially on returns. I think morton isn't helping us in anyway, and I still think Thrash has what it takes and he is very stable on performing

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Skins1573

Offiss, I disagree with your comment on Gardner. I think if you get him the ball early in the game and often things will happen. I think durning the giants game he wasn't thrown too until the 2nd quater. I don't here you saying anything about coles and the drops he had (not includeing the 1 R. Williams hit him hard, which i think was helmet to helmet) Your opinion, which is cool, and I just see diffrent on this one. Also I think we need to get J.Thrash in the game, especially on returns. I think morton isn't helping us in anyway, and I still think Thrash has what it takes and he is very stable on performing

As I said, I missed the first half, so I didn't see any of coles drop's, but the fact is, one has nothing to do with the other, how many ball's did Coles drop last year? I can't remember many, and I don't remember him killing us with stupid penalties, time and again either, if you wan't to crown Gardner all pro after 1 game, go ahead, I know better, Gardner has remained in the starting lineup for 1 reason, he has tremendous potential, but petential as parcell's say's, mean's you ain't done nothing yet, rest assured I route for Gardner to reach the potential we all know he posesses, but until he does it on a consistant basis, where we know we can rely on him to make the big play, as well as the little play, I am not changing my stance, the little girl with the curl has burned us to many times.

[SmootSmack]

I think Michaels and Madden were saying yesterday that the helmet to helmet hit was valid because by then Gardner was a runner, not a receiver so helmet to helmet is allowed. First I'd heard of that rule

[Hogskin]

I could be wrong, but I sure thought helmet-to-helmet penalties only applied to hits on the QB. They have a LOT of special rules for the QB, because they see him as a sitting duck.