Canadian Healthcare from a Canadian...

[Redskin]

I attend college, its expensive.

[BigSKINBauer]

Originally Posted by Redskin

I attend college, its expensive.

What? College... expensive?!?! I got about 6K in loans, 7K from the school, 4K from work, and the other 6K from family who i plan on paying back.

But after that i got hundreds of thousands for limo rides and making it rain pacman style at the bars.


Seriously though, i don't know why we are talking about college costs.

[djnemo65]

My mom taught a couple online courses at her college and basically said they were a joke. It's more about the University finding a way of increasing its revenue than it is about actually providing a quality educational product, at least according to her. I never took one so I can't speak from experience, although something about the whole idea of never meeting your professor always seemed a little off to me.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

My mom taught a couple online courses at her college and basically said they were a joke. It's more about the University finding a way of increasing its revenue than it is about actually providing a quality educational product, at least according to her. I never took one so I can't speak from experience, although something about the whole idea of never meeting your professor always seemed a little off to me.

I took an online class as an undergrad and I had mixed feelings on it. It wasn't totally online either, we had class once every 2 weeks. The rest of the time we had to post on a message board just like this, the prof would post topics to discuss from our readings and we were required to post a certain amount of times and we were basically graded on our posts. So it was kinda interesting and a different format from what I was used to, just not sure if that format would work well with all courses.

[djnemo65]

This is an interesting article that explains a lot of the problems people have with the U of Phoenix

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/11/ed...11phoenix.html

Very interesting stuff. Glad I didn't study there.

[dmek25]

how did we go from discussing health-care, to online schooling? just wondering

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by dmek25

how did we go from discussing health-care, to online schooling? just wondering

I think the lines of thinking went from poor, lower class people who can't afford health and how poor people are usually lazy and unwilling to better themselves by going to college. Maybe the exact words were not said (or typed,) but I believe that is how we went from health care to schools.

[724Skinsfan]

Pretty much. To sum it up in a slightly cynical perspective:

The vast majority of people who don't have the types of jobs that offer decent health care are lazy and should just simply better themselves by going to the magical world of college where you automatically get a job with great healthcare benefits upon graduation. Oh yeah, college is extremely cheap, if not free, you just simply have to suck it up for 3-4 years with absolutely no luxury because to not do so would mean you don't have your priorities in order; not because you thought you'd be a cool single parent and buy your kid a decent pair of shoes...once.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

Pretty much. To sum it up in a slightly cynical perspective:

The vast majority of people who don't have the types of jobs that offer decent health care are lazy and should just simply better themselves by going to the magical world of college where you automatically get a job with great healthcare benefits upon graduation. Oh yeah, college is extremely cheap, if not free, you just simply have to suck it up for 3-4 years with absolutely no luxury because to not do so would mean you don't have your priorities in order; not because you thought you'd be a cool single parent and buy your kid a decent pair of shoes...once.

Perfectly stated!

[dmek25]

i have learned alot from this. i didn't realize that all poor people are lazy, and just looking for handouts. i learned that alot of my fellow warpathers are all for one, and one for all. at least as long as that one is ME. i learned that people that don't have health care should not own anything, even cable, until they can supply themselves with coverage. i learned i can get a degree for 25.00 a month. but i also learned that the poor people( which are all lazy) don't want to farther their education. they would rather remain poor, and stupid. thanks for enlightening me guys

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by dmek25

i have learned alot from this. i didn't realize that all poor people are lazy, and just looking for handouts.

Not all, but most. And it also depends how you define poor. If you can afford anything more than the basic needs in life, then you're not poor, at least in my book.

Originally Posted by dmek25

i learned that alot of my fellow warpathers are all for one, and one for all. at least as long as that one is ME.

That's the very nature of capitalism, everyone looks out for themselves. And it's in my best interest to make sure everyone has shelter, food, water, and heat. Otherwise they'll start stealing and selling drugs just to meet their basic needs. I don't care about these people enough to see that they get any more than what they need to survive. If they want anything beyond the basic needs, they can earn it just like I am.

Originally Posted by dmek25

i learned that people that don't have health care should not own anything, even cable, until they can supply themselves with coverage.

That's called just being smart. Why would you buy cable before paying for healthcare? Isn't that just a stupid thing to do? If you have a heart attack and need open heart surgery, you won't get the surgery if you don't have coverage. Why on earth would you do that? Seems like the only intelligent decision is to ditch cable and pay for some coverage, even if it's only to cover the catastrophic illnesses like heart disease or getting hit by a bus.

Yes, that's a real disease. It's called Getting Hit By a Busitis.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by dmek25

i have learned alot from this. i didn't realize that all poor people are lazy, and just looking for handouts. i learned that alot of my fellow warpathers are all for one, and one for all. at least as long as that one is ME. i learned that people that don't have health care should not own anything, even cable, until they can supply themselves with coverage. i learned i can get a degree for 25.00 a month. but i also learned that the poor people( which are all lazy) don't want to farther their education. they would rather remain poor, and stupid. thanks for enlightening me guys

This thread has taken some interesting turns hasn't it? I'm quite amused myself for a variety of reasons.

[KLHJ2]

Hold on now. I am not saying that all poor people are lazy. I acknowleged that there are those who make an asserted effort to live a better life. Those people should be helped. It is the ones who just do not care or pretend to be poor that I am refering to.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

In Florida, there is a program called Bright Futures. Any high-school student who meets the following criteria receives 75% tuition paid for any school in Florida:

Merit Scholarship-
1.) Meet attendance requirements
2.) 3.0 or greater cumulative high-school GPA
3.) 970 or better on the SAT

In addition, if you meet this criteria you receive 100% tuition paid, plus $600 per semester for other expenses (i.e.: books):

Full Academic Scholarship-
1.) Meet attendance requirements
2.) 3.5 or greater cumulative high-school GPA
3.) 1270 or better on SAT

The program will pay your tuition for up to 6 years, or 140 credits. It's probably the best education program in the state of Florida, and possibly the whole nation.

I moved to Florida after my Junior year in high-school, and since I met the requirements, I qualified for the Merit Scholarship. I don't have my Bachelor's degree yet, but I did get 118 college credits and only had to pay 25% tuition, plus books. I worked full-time and went to school at night. It was a great opportunity. Of course everyone is granted a high-school education for free, and if you perform there you will have most of your college tuition paid for (if not all of it) -- your income bracket is irrelevant. Poor people have the opportunity to go to college for free in Florida. Literally.

Note: I might be off 10 or 20 SAT points, and the Scholarship might not be 140 credits, but it's definitely really close to that. They also change the rules every now and then, but the basic idea doesn't change: poor people have the opportunity to get a college degree for free (or close to it).

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

In Florida, there is a program called Bright Futures. Any high-school student who meets the following criteria receives 75% tuition paid for any school in Florida:

Merit Scholarship-
1.) Meet attendance requirements
2.) 3.0 or greater cumulative high-school GPA
3.) 970 or better on the SAT

In addition, if you meet this criteria you receive 100% tuition paid, plus $600 per semester for other expenses (i.e.: books):

Full Academic Scholarship-
1.) Meet attendance requirements
2.) 3.5 or greater cumulative high-school GPA
3.) 1270 or better on SAT

The program will pay your tuition for up to 6 years, or 140 credits. It's probably the best education program in the state of Florida, and possibly the whole nation.

I moved to Florida after my Junior year in high-school, and since I met the requirements, I qualified for the Merit Scholarship. I don't have my Bachelor's degree yet, but I did get 118 college credits and only had to pay 25% tuition, plus books. I worked full-time and went to school at night. It was a great opportunity. Of course everyone is granted a high-school education for free, and if you perform there you will have most of your college tuition paid for (if not all of it) -- your income bracket is irrelevant. Poor people have the opportunity to go to college for free in Florida. Literally.

I've heard of that program and I absolutely love it. I'd be fine with paying more taxes to subsidize those kinds of programs.