Canadian Healthcare from a Canadian...

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

How can you tell they are good benefits without knowing what the limits are, how much the co-pays are, and how much the out of pocket cost is?

Cost might not matter to you, but I guarantee cost really matters if you're making $8 an hour.

I think you're missing my point on the cost issue.
Sure it matters to everyone, but you need to make a choice, either to accept or not. If you CHOOSE not accept it, then that's your choice. You need to find a way to afford it or you go without...plain and simple. This whole argument started with my saying, even a burger flipper at McDonalds is offered insurance. People that don't have it choose not to have it. I'd be willing to bet those that don't have the insurance at work have cable and other luxuries though. So we are supposed to pay for their insurance cause they choose to spend their money elsewhere...I don't think so.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I think you're missing my point on the cost issue.
Sure it matters to everyone, but you need to make a choice, either to accept or not. If you CHOOSE not accept it, then that's your choice. You need to find a way to afford it or you go without...plain and simple. This whole argument started with my saying, even a burger flipper at McDonalds is offered insurance. People that don't have it choose not to have it. I'd be willing to bet those that don't have the insurance at work have cable and other luxuries though. So we are supposed to pay for their insurance cause they choose to spend their money elsewhere...I don't think so.

I think there's a fundamental problem with having to decide whether health coverage is worth it or not. For lower paying jobs, people have to make that choice and that's what I have a problem with. And the coverage they get isn't even that great. Shouldn't they be entitled to quality coverage that is affordable in comparison to how much they make?

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think there's a fundamental problem with having to decide whether health coverage is worth it or not. For lower paying jobs, people have to make that choice and that's what I have a problem with. And the coverage they get isn't even that great. Shouldn't they be entitled to quality coverage that is affordable in comparison to how much they make?

I won't argue whether that is a fundamental flaw or not. It is. But we all do it. You can't band-aid one area and hope it all fixes itself. Why is it OK to have a $300k 5 hour surgery? Why is it OK to pay $150 for a simple doctor visit? The entire system is flawed to it's core, so unless we are talking about how to fix this core, it's a moot point.