Classless Coach Belichick

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

The company I keep?? All of these guys are very good people. They don't commit crimes and they are good fathers and outstanding citizens. They have just had some one night stands in Vegas. Is it right? No. Am I going to end friendships with people I have known for 15 years cause they had an affair? Hell no.

Dude, if they are cheating/have cheated on their wives, they are not good people, they're scumbags.. Good fathers and outstanding citizens don't cheat on someone they've pledged their lives to and risk it all for 39 seconds of pleasure.. If their character isn't solid enough to resist a one night stand in Vegas then it's time to take a long look in the mirror.. Sorry for the morality check.. Now back to football..

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Dude, if they are cheating/have cheated on their wives, they are not good people, they're scumbags.. Good fathers and outstanding citizens don't cheat on someone they've pledged their lives to and risk it all for 39 seconds of pleasure.. If their character isn't solid enough to resist a one night stand in Vegas then it's time to take a long look in the mirror.. Sorry for the morality check.. Now back to football..

Couldn't have said it better myself. Anyone who doesn't get this point probably won't ever get it. It's like arguing with a brick wall.

It's no surprise that these two are the ones sticking up for Belichick.

[irish]

Originally Posted by mheisig

Couldn't have said it better myself. Anyone who doesn't get this point probably won't ever get it. It's like arguing with a brick wall.

It's no surprise that these two are the ones sticking up for Belichick.

I'm not sticking up for BB. I'm sticking up for playing hard and playing to win until the game is over.

I think a big reason for a lot of people having problems with NE winning how they did is that they either grew up (or are raising kids) in this era of trophies for all and everyone is on the all star team. They think that winning is fine but really dropping the hammer on an opponent is just not right. I guess I'm just old school and think everyone should play as hard as they can all game long. I'd rather get crushed than think the other team eased up on me because they feel sorry for me. That was how me and my friends thought and played. I guess I'm in the minority now.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by irish

I'm not sticking up for BB. I'm sticking up for playing hard and playing to win until the game is over.

I think a big reason for a lot of people having problems with NE winning how they did is that they either grew up (or are raising kids) in this era of trophies for all and everyone is on the all star team. They think that winning is fine but really dropping the hammer on an opponent is just not right. I guess I'm just old school and think everyone should play as hard as they can all game long. I'd rather get crushed than think the other team eased up on me because they feel sorry for me. That was how me and my friends thought and played. I guess I'm in the minority now.

I think you care more about winning than enjoying the game. Originally, the game was created to have fun. It's tough to have fun when your opponent scores 8 times as many points as you. That has changed, and now the focus is not enjoyment, but rather winning at all costs. Maybe it's okay. Maybe it's not.

If you were playing basketball with a bunch of ten year olds, would you just dominate them? I know it's not the same thing, but that is pretty much what you said in your post -- play every game to win, and win as big as you can. I guess you left out the word "professional", when referring to sports.

Also, letting up is not an issue of "feeling sorry" for the other team. It's an issue of respecting the idea that the game is meant to be enjoyable. I guess that doesn't make sense in professional sports. Sigh.

[irish]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

I think you care more about winning than enjoying the game. Originally, the game was created to have fun. It's tough to have fun when your opponent scores 8 times as many points as you. That has changed, and now the focus is not enjoyment, but rather winning at all costs. Maybe it's okay. Maybe it's not.

If you were playing basketball with a bunch of ten year olds, would you just dominate them? I know it's not the same thing, but that is pretty much what you said in your post -- play every game to win, and win as big as you can. I guess you left out the word "professional", when referring to sports.

Also, letting up is not an issue of "feeling sorry" for the other team. It's an issue of respecting the idea that the game is meant to be enjoyable. I guess that doesn't make sense in professional sports. Sigh.

Its a professional sport and everyone is evenly matched. These games are not for fun, its about $ and winning. Nothing more, nothing less. NE was not playing a Pop Warner team (no matter how much it looked like they were).

If I was playing basketball against 10 year olds I would not let them win because if I let them win then they did not really win and when they finally did win they would know how great it feels to struggle and finally achieve a goal. Unfortunately trophies for all only helps the loser kids (and their parents) feel less bad about themselves and robbs them of the joy of working toward a goal and accomplishing it.

[TheBigD]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

I think you care more about winning than enjoying the game. Originally, the game was created to have fun. It's tough to have fun when your opponent scores 8 times as many points as you. That has changed, and now the focus is not enjoyment, but rather winning at all costs. Maybe it's okay. Maybe it's not.

If you were playing basketball with a bunch of ten year olds, would you just dominate them? I know it's not the same thing, but that is pretty much what you said in your post -- play every game to win, and win as big as you can. I guess you left out the word "professional", when referring to sports.

Also, letting up is not an issue of "feeling sorry" for the other team. It's an issue of respecting the idea that the game is meant to be enjoyable. I guess that doesn't make sense in professional sports. Sigh.

I think you are right, the game is there for FUN. You know who was having fun? The NE fans (and their bandwaggon riders) who wanted to see more scores. Alot of people found that to be "enjoyable" (not me because I hate the Pats). Yes, it was not fun for the Skins and their fans, but people (at the game or home) like to see more TDs.

"Professional" sports? Why wouldn't the Skins play like professionals and finish the game right instead of hoping that the Pats would feel sorry for them and stop scoring?

Irish is right I hate the "everyone wins" attitude.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by mheisig

Couldn't have said it better myself. Anyone who doesn't get this point probably won't ever get it. It's like arguing with a brick wall.

It's no surprise that these two are the ones sticking up for Belichick.

I'm not sticking up for BB at all. I agree that he is somewhat of a jackass. But I'm just not going to come on here and blame him for our problems, like everyone else is. I'm just pointing out that we don't need to worry about BB and his personal issues. What the hell does that have to do with went down on the field yesterday? What does that have to do with why we can't get 1st downs? What does that have to do with why we keep calling stupid 2 yard screen passes that don't work?

[Dlyne8r]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Dude, if they are cheating/have cheated on their wives, they are not good people, they're scumbags.. Good fathers and outstanding citizens don't cheat on someone they've pledged their lives to and risk it all for 39 seconds of pleasure.. If their character isn't solid enough to resist a one night stand in Vegas then it's time to take a long look in the mirror.. Sorry for the morality check.. Now back to football..

Thank you. I couldn't have said it any better. Now, can someone lead me to an "eyewash" station? I feel dirty after reading that post. :vomit: