Day 1 Draft Grade

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Solid B for great value, would have liked to have seen at least 1 need filled along the lines but when you look at the value we got I'm finding it hard to have anything really bad to say, especially when we still have 6 selections left.

exactly.
Great answer, I 100% agree.

[squrrelco3]

Late to the party here...I give it a C...we need linemen on both sides of the ball...Devin Thomas was a good pickup but beyond that we grabbed too many receivers...almost like they are just going to throw all of them up against the wall and see which one sticks...and the TE we drafted? WTF?!?!?

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by squrrelco3

Late to the party here...I give it a C...we need linemen on both sides of the ball...Devin Thomas was a good pickup but beyond that we grabbed too many receivers...almost like they are just going to throw all of them up against the wall and see which one sticks...and the TE we drafted? WTF?!?!?

One of those two (if not both) are bound to be good, and both were projected 1st rounders, so I have no problem with the picks.
Like others I wanted a DE, so I am not happy with the Davis pick instead of Campbell, but maybe they have something up their sleeves for the June 1st cuts or something. The offseason is still young.

[artyK75]

Ithink we should have taken Calias Campbell & Kelly Or Kelly and LIMAS SWEED

[LandrySlice]

I give us an A- We need these recievers for the west coast offense. By just placing these guys on the field with moss and ARE, they will have a much easier time getting open looks. Same thing goes for Cooley, in that Zorn will be using two TE formations. I don't see why we can't just retune the O and Dlines next year, considering we had the 8th best defense in the league last year. Hail Greg Novis the snake charmer!

[Drift Reality]

F, because we saw a draft that was based off a front-office strategy that is fundamentally flawed.

F, because the Redskins vision is dictated by someone who has no experience in the sport.

F, because we drafted a bunch of Christmas ornaments while neglecting the tree.

F, because teams like the Patriots and Giants show us that it starts in the trenches and we seem to want to ignore what successful franchises do.

F, because we are going to see a team that resembles the Spurrier team (after Marvin Lewis left).

F, because we have the worst management in all of the NFL.

[SmootSmack]

We're going to see a team that resembles the post-Marvin Lewis Spurrier teams? You mean the Joe Gibbs teams??

[Drift Reality]

Nope, I mean 2003 - when we went 5-11 with a lousy defense and no protection for our quarterback.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Drift Reality

F, because we saw a draft that was based off a front-office strategy that is fundamentally flawed.

F, because the Redskins vision is dictated by someone who has no experience in the sport.

F, because we drafted a bunch of Christmas ornaments while neglecting the tree.

F, because teams like the Patriots and Giants show us that it starts in the trenches and we seem to want to ignore what successful franchises do.

F, because we are going to see a team that resembles the post-Marvin Lewis Spurrier teams.

F, because we have the worst management in all of the NFL.

wow...someone is a grumpy-puss. Go grab a beer man.

[Drift Reality]

Originally Posted by jsarno

wow...someone is a grumpy-puss. Go grab a beer man.

I did that for six hours last night. Actually, that may be why I am grumpy.

I would be so happy if we had taken Campbell or Groves instead of the TE, and an offensive lineman with the third pick in the second round.

SO HAPPY!

Instead, I'm totally baffled by this draft.

Every year we go out and do something ridiculous to bring in wide receivers when we should be building up our lines. EVERY YEAR!

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Drift Reality

I did that for six hours last night. Actually, that may be why I am grumpy.

I would be so happy if we had taken Campbell or Groves instead of the TE, and an offensive lineman with the third pick in the second round.

SO HAPPY!

Instead, I'm totally baffled by this draft.

Every year we go out and do something ridiculous to bring in wide receivers when we should be building up our lines. EVERY YEAR!

I think Dan Snyder is gay for wide receivers.

I really wanted Campbell too...the Davis pick had me scratching my head. But let's face it, we have a very good Oline...yes they are aging, but look at the 91 skins, they were old too and still did one hell of a job. I still want a DE and I am hoping that we are targeting one with either the june 1st cuts, or via a trade.
I'm one of the few here that think we have nothing at WR. I like Moss, but he can't do it himself. ARE is useless to me, so we really need these WR's.
We have a fairly good Dline, but we lack depth and a solid DE opposite Carter...again, nothing the june 1st cuts can't fix, or a trade for someone like Taylor (we will need him to restructure though).
All in all, I like the draft.

[Drift Reality]

Come on! Look at the history:

1. Go get Coles
2. Decide Coles isn't right and trade him for Moss
3. Go get Brandon Lloyd for a 3rd and 4th
4. Sign Randle El
5. Cut Lloyd
6. Decide Randle El and Moss aren't right and get two receivers with our 2nd rounders

COME ON PEOPLE! I FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Drift Reality

I did that for six hours last night. Actually, that may be why I am grumpy.

I would be so happy if we had taken Campbell or Groves instead of the TE, and an offensive lineman with the third pick in the second round.

SO HAPPY!

Instead, I'm totally baffled by this draft.

Every year we go out and do something ridiculous to bring in wide receivers when we should be building up our lines. EVERY YEAR!

I think Dan Snyder is gay for wide receivers.

Campbell maybe. Groves? We basically have him in Wilson (and now Jackson) at a much cheaper price. Groves is a tweener probably best suited for a 3-4.

We got great value with Chad Rinehart. Alexander and Heyer were nice free agent finds last year for the O-line. And we still have one of the game's best in Chris Samuels.

Then on defense, Andre Carter emerged as a premiere pass rusher. Chris Wilson showed plenty of promise. And we did draft a couple of DTs a couple of years ago.

So we really haven't been neglecting the trenches. Could we have done better? Sure. But really when you look at how many linemen the Giants, for example, have drafted the past few years it's not like they're blowing us out the water.

Plus, Moss and ARE aren't getting any younger (or taller and bigger). Further Blache has said that secondary play is key to his defense so building up depth at that position was important. Moreover, a defense's best friend is field position so getting the top rated punter in the country in the 6th round (while not my first choice) doesn't merit an F.

All in all, we made some very smart moves. As this "worst mnagement in the NFL" has done with its limited amount of draft choices in the past.

I'll give it a B. Really, to give it anything less than a C (C+ actually) is complaining just to complain.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Drift Reality

F, because we saw a draft that was based off a front-office strategy that is fundamentally flawed.

F, because the Redskins vision is dictated by someone who has no experience in the sport.

F, because we drafted a bunch of Christmas ornaments while neglecting the tree.

F, because teams like the Patriots and Giants show us that it starts in the trenches and we seem to want to ignore what successful franchises do.

F, because we are going to see a team that resembles the Spurrier team (after Marvin Lewis left).

F, because we have the worst management in all of the NFL.

What is the fundamental flaw with the FO, that we needed to upgrade our WR corps? That the WCO works well with two TE/FB types to create mismatches?

The vision is being dicatated by Cerrato & Zorn. Cerrato has an NCAA championship and a SB under his belt. Zorn was a starting NFL QB for several years....no experience.

We beat the Giants once last year and should've beat them twice.

Most of the analysts graded the Skins well on this draft.....I guess that indicates we have the "worst mgmt in the NFL" :frusty:

I would've liked to see the DL addressed earlier, but there's no argument we got value with all our early picks and they all fill needs. Blache was a DL coach for years, if he wasn't screaming for a DL then he must be comfortable at least for 2008. I believe the Guard we drafted in the 3rd can also play Tackle and our immediate need was at LG. Buges is a great line coach, we survived last year's injuries, we'll survive in 2008. With JC developing and big targets to hit we'll be fine and address the OL/DE age issue with June 1 cuts or in next year's draft.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Drift Reality

F, because we saw a draft that was based off a front-office strategy that is fundamentally flawed.

F, because the Redskins vision is dictated by someone who has no experience in the sport.

F, because we drafted a bunch of Christmas ornaments while neglecting the tree.

F, because teams like the Patriots and Giants show us that it starts in the trenches and we seem to want to ignore what successful franchises do.

F, because we are going to see a team that resembles the Spurrier team (after Marvin Lewis left).

F, because we have the worst management in all of the NFL.

Wow you need to take your pantyhose off