Should Hillary Hang It Up?

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by saden1

I wonder when you might grace us with insight into your research and analysis of the republican electorate. You know, make up, education level, social status, NASCAR viewing habits, affinity for guns, sexual preference, etc.

Based on what happened in Mississippee yesterday, I would say the Republican elecorate is down to myself, the editors of National Review, and a couple of students at Liberty University.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

Based on what happened in Mississippee yesterday, I would say the Republican elecorate is down to myself, the editors of National Review, and a couple of students at Liberty University.

lol...that's pretty funny.

[70Chip]

I am a little surprised that no one has come to West Virginia's defense by pointing out why West Virginia is a state to begin with. The good people there had no interest whatsoever in fighting and dying over the institution of slavery. And that was nearly 150 years ago. They must not be really, really racist. Or perhaps they are as I said before, a very pragmatic people.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

I am a little surprised that no one has come to West Virginia's defense by pointing out why West Virginia is a state to begin with. The good people there had no interest whatsoever in fighting and dying over the institution of slavery. And that was nearly 150 years ago. They must not be really, really racist. Or perhaps they are as I said before, a very pragmatic people.

I said nothing of the people of WV being racist. I am, however, saying that they are as diverse as platypuses and as educated as Neanderthals. And of course you can also take a look at the exit polls and make your own judgment.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by saden1

I said nothing of the people of WV being racist. I am, however, saying that they are as diverse as platypuses and as educated as Neanderthals. And of course you can also take a look at the exit polls and make your own judgment.

way to fight racism with ignorance and hate. i bet you make friends really easily.

that poll you linked to did show 20% as stating that race was a factor, but even if you re-aligned that completely, obama still loses by double digits.

yeah, there are racists in west virginia, but calling the entire state inbred and retarded or what have you makes you just as guilty and a hypocrite for calling them out with such generalities while thinking that you're any better.

i mean, if there's a place for the race card, this is it, but that's just simply not the reason he lost here... it's only part of the reason. the poor and uneducated just aren't on obama's bandwagon, and calling anyone that doesn't vote for him names doesn't help.

call the racists racist, but don't call the people that simply don't agree with him (or you) racists.

[70Chip]

This may sound far flung but I think the Cosby Show is instructive here. Shelby Steele has pointed out that Cosby basically made an unspoken deal with the American public that he would not challenge them on their racist past and in exchange he woud be accepted as mainstream. He gets success and the whites get to come down off the hook for 30 minutes a week and feel like things are progressing on the race front. Oprah Winfrey, Tiger Woods, Micheal Jordan, Sammy Davis, and many others have entered into a similiar bargain. "Roots" was one of the highest rated television events in history because it embodied this same spirit. As long as he stays within those parameters he's golden. This was why Billl Clinton tried to compare him to Jesse Jackson. Jackson is what Steele calls a "challenger". He never misses a chance to remind whites of their sins. Clinton instinctively understands that this is the game and he was trying to de-Cosby Obama a little bit. It doesn't appear to have been enough to win the war but maybe it was helpful in West Virginia. I say this to point out that the race issue is not as simple as enlightened whites vs. peckerwood racists. There's a lot of subconcious stuff going on. Under the surface resentments on both sides have a great impact on things even though we don't realize it. Bill Clinton, I would suggest, is angry right now with Black America because he feels betrayed by them even though even the most ardent Obama booster would be loathe to acknowledge it. The overt racists, to the extent that they really exist, are not the issue we really face. Nobody thinks of themselves in those terms and nobody wants to be accused of being racist. That's why Obama has to be careful.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by That Guy

way to fight racism with ignorance and hate. i bet you make friends really easily.

that poll you linked to did show 20% as stating that race was a factor, but even if you re-aligned that completely, obama still loses by double digits.

yeah, there are racists in west virginia, but calling the entire state inbred and retarded or what have you makes you just as guilty and a hypocrite for calling them out with such generalities while thinking that you're any better.

i mean, if there's a place for the race card, this is it, but that's just simply not the reason he lost here... it's only part of the reason. the poor and uneducated just aren't on obama's bandwagon, and calling anyone that doesn't vote for him names doesn't help.

call the racists racist, but don't call the people that simply don't agree with him (or you) racists.

No, I don't make friends easily because I have no use for them. Frankly, I don't have the type of personality that seeks approval from people. There's many reasons for my ailment but it's mosly due to being an elitist liberal that's allergic to stupid people.

What part of "West Virginians are dead last in college education and that only 14.8% have completed college" or the fact that "it's 96% white" doesn't agree with you? Next time try reading my posts and do try to concentrate while reading, you might actually comprehend what I said before you go on a rant that takes my post to another dimension and warps it...don't put any words in my mouth. There's nothing more to what I have said beyond what I wrote.

p.s. If it makes you feel better Alabama and Mississippi are in the same boat in terms of being as educated as Neanderthals.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by saden1

No, I don't make friends easily because I have no use for them. Frankly, I don't have the type of personality that seeks approval from people. There's many reasons for my ailment but it's mosly due to being an elitist liberal that's allergic to stupid people.

What part of "West Virginians are dead last in college education and that only 12.3% have completed college" or the fact that "it's 96% white" doesn't agree with you? Next time try reading my posts and do try to concentrate while reading, you might actually comprehend what I said before you go on a rant...and don't f'ing put any words in my mouth.

p.s. If it makes you feel better Alabama and Mississippi are in the same boat in terms of being as educated as Neanderthals.

William Faulkner was from Mississippi. Ditto Eudora Welty, Shelby Foote, and Walker Percy. Obama is probably going to win this election. There's no reason to tar entire groups of people like this over one electoral setback.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by saden1

No, I don't make friends easily because I have no use for them. Frankly, I don't have the type of personality that seeks approval from people. There's many reasons for my ailment but it's mosly due to being an elitist liberal that's allergic to stupid people.

What part of "West Virginians are dead last in college education and that only 14.8% have completed college" or the fact that "it's 96% white" doesn't agree with you? Next time try reading my posts and do try to concentrate while reading, you might actually comprehend what I said before you go on a rant that takes my post to another dimension and warps it...don't put any words in my mouth. There's nothing more to what I have said beyond what I wrote.

p.s. If it makes you feel better Alabama and Mississippi are in the same boat in terms of being as educated as Neanderthals.

and here i thought you were talking about the race question at the bottom of the link. my bad, i just remember the last time i saw you posting on political threads and thought you were going back there again (you know, when you actually did call everyone on the board a racist).

sorry for jumping the gun.