Defensive line..Stop the man crushes..

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

Well atleast he can touch a QB in a game. Preseason or not. I am talking abotu some of these older guys. Its really to late to do anything now. But Our DBs get more sacks than out D-Line. I am glad we got Jason Taylor and have Andre Carter. I like the kid Montgomery. But I am talking about Pass rushers for the future and back-ups. Maybe man crushes was the wrong word. I actually hate that word myself..sounds kinda..but anyways..familiarity or seniority. How many games have you watched were we barely touch the Qb and his jersey is extra clean..?

Green? Rob Jackson is a rookie but he is getting sacks..NFL Stats: by Player Category

I think the people we have are decent..but we need to take it to the next level. We have upgraded. But we should have done more earlier.

How fucking hard is it to just name the players you're talking about? This is so unbelievably ridiculous. Is it so damn hard to just name the effin players instead of being so freakin' cryptic? Are you talking about Griffin, Boschetti, Evans (those are the only veterans left that I can think of), are you talking about all of them, one of them, two of them? Put some friggin' meat on the bones of your thread. Goodness if this is the crap you're going to offer, I can see why ES didn't want you around.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

How fucking hard is it to just name the players you're talking about? This is so unbelievably ridiculous. Is it so damn hard to just name the effin players instead of being so freakin' cryptic? Are you talking about Griffin, Boschetti, Evans (those are the only veterans left that I can think of), are you talking about all of them, one of them, two of them? Put some friggin' meat on the bones of your thread. Goodness if this is the crap you're going to offer, I can see why ES didn't want you around.

Ditto. Aside from the obfuscation, how the hell can any of us criticize the franchise over pass rush when we've done more this off-season (in a single transaction albeit) than in 7 previous seasons? What the hell is the expectation here: transfer the Giants d-line roster down to DC.

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[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

How fucking hard is it to just name the players you're talking about? This is so unbelievably ridiculous. Is it so damn hard to just name the effin players instead of being so freakin' cryptic? Are you talking about Griffin, Boschetti, Evans (those are the only veterans left that I can think of), are you talking about all of them, one of them, two of them? Put some friggin' meat on the bones of your thread. Goodness if this is the crap you're going to offer, I can see why ES didn't want you around.

Wow..thanks for the good words dude..Thanks for insulting me. I will name the players. Griffin plays good against the run. But he doesn't touch the QB. Daniels is hurt so I cant put him the conversation. As a whole they haven't produced. That's why we have to rush DBs to get to our QB. The only person who has produced is Carter. Jason Taylor will produce. Montgomery is coming on. Wilson came on at the end of the season. But everyone else hasn't been that fantastic. Why are you getting all frustrated dude.

The reason I am not on ES is because one of the people I was arguing with was friends with the moderator. I got hated on because I said Mason should make the team and Rock was a good returner but he sucked as a RB. Granted he has one long run last game. That's all he has shown.

Secondly I said that Jason Campbell should be given a fair shot. He has only started around 20 games and people were asing for Colt to be the starter. I asked for him to be given a fair chance and got persectued.

another reason this geek kept posting irrelevant stats about Rock..and saying he should be on the team solely for his special team skills. Which could be a good point. So honestly I posted STFU (and not the actual words) to a dude. I got banned for that. Which if you go on the board and check the smileys there is actually one that says STFU so I didn't see the harm. Especially when someone is insulting me and I had seen other posters say it. Also he was saying insulting things.

As far as you. All you have to do is ask for me to be more detailed and stop thowing hissy fits. If it is cool to curse at people on this board and insult them hopefully I wont get banned for defending myself. So moderator..I need to know is it right to throw out the F word because I will along with some other ones. If I listed the people who were doing good. It shouldn't be hard to figure out the ones who aren't doing that much. Especially if you watch the games. This is not about this preseason alone. its about the past 3-4 years when we barely sniff a QB and he picks us apart. The point that I was making is if the people arne't here whether they are veterans or 2-3 year players and they can't touch the Qb we need to find some new blood that can. Whether it is through drafting or free agency. If Erasmus James can be healthy and produce we shouldn't but him on IR unless he is truly injured and not able to put in work. If Rob Jackson has skills to rush the passer than he should be given a chance. For the past few years Carter has been the only one who has produced on a constant basis and that's not enough. With JT here that should change. But he wont be around that long. So if we have talent we shoudl develop it. If we have veterans that are not producing and have been around for a while then we need to stop having a love affair with them and get someone who can do the job. Whether its through trade or free agency or the draft. is that clear enough? I shouldn't even have to name names if you watch the games. You know who is producing and who hasn't.