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[saden1]

Let's define fiscal conservatism and limited government. With respect to social institutions what does that mean? What current government institution/agencies get cut?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by saden1

Let's define fiscal conservatism and limited government. With respect to social institutions what does that mean? What current government institution/agencies get cut?

I think we could cut goverment in half and 99% of the people would never notice any change or they might notice an improvement.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by saden1

Let's define fiscal conservatism and limited government. With respect to social institutions what does that mean? What current government institution/agencies get cut?

WOW, where to start.

Dept of Ed gone

Department of Defense, restored to a self - defense posture
Army -Reserves only, 2yr compulsory service, with a Officer Corp maintained.
Air Force and Navy Funded, but for defense of borders and trade only
NASA gone (privatized)

Dept. of Health and Human Services gone

Dept of State, fully funded

Department of Justice, funded for Judicial Branch requirements.

Department of the Treasury funded for printing money, and protecting American currency from fraud

Department of Housing and Urban Development gone

Department of Transportation, funded as necessary for maintain interstate commerce.

Department of Interior, probably subsumed mostly gone

Department of Agriculture, Fully funded, perhaps put food assistance to the poor here.

Department of Commerce funded for appropriate regulatory agencies

Department of Labor fully funded

Department of Energy fully funded

Department of Homeland Security gone (goodby big brother)

Department of Veterans Affairs placed under DOD.

I suppose thats a start, most anything that creates a dependency on the federal government, rather than a reliance on self, family and local community, ought to be out and out eliminated. And before anyone cries how awful, and cruel. Remember the federal government does not create money out of thin air(if they do we are in serious trouble.) If our government's payroll was reduced, more could go to individuals/local communities/charities and state governments in order to handle the needs of the local community and people.

Also, this is a pipe dream, I know it will NEVER happen, and if it did, it would be so painful as to be apocalyptic in nature. But our Federal government was established to maintain a framework in which the States, unique and distinct could take care of their own needs. We are now much closer to the England of King George, than we are of the United (but individual) States of America.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

WOW, where to start.

Dept of Ed gone

Department of Defense, restored to a self - defense posture
Army -Reserves only, 2yr compulsory service, with a Officer Corp maintained.
Air Force and Navy Funded, but for defense of borders and trade only
NASA gone (privatized)

Dept. of Health and Human Services gone

Dept of State, fully funded

Department of Justice, funded for Judicial Branch requirements.

Department of the Treasury funded for printing money, and protecting American currency from fraud

Department of Housing and Urban Development gone

Department of Transportation, funded as necessary for maintain interstate commerce.

Department of Interior, probably subsumed mostly gone

Department of Agriculture, Fully funded, perhaps put food assistance to the poor here.

Department of Commerce funded for appropriate regulatory agencies

Department of Labor fully funded

Department of Energy fully funded

Department of Homeland Security gone (goodby big brother)

Department of Veterans Affairs placed under DOD.

I suppose thats a start, most anything that creates a dependency on the federal government, rather than a reliance on self, family and local community, ought to be out and out eliminated. And before anyone cries how awful, and cruel. Remember the federal government does not create money out of thin air(if they do we are in serious trouble.) If our government's payroll was reduced, more could go to individuals/local communities/charities and state governments in order to handle the needs of the local community and people.

Also, this is a pipe dream, I know it will NEVER happen, and if it did, it would be so painful as to be apocalyptic in nature. But our Federal government was established to maintain a framework in which the States, unique and distinct could take care of their own needs. We are now much closer to the England of King George, than we are of the United (but individual) States of America.

Now that's Conservativism. Why is it that when someone says conservative people think of Bibles, abortion, or homosexual special interest?

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Now that's Conservativism. Why is it that when someone says conservative people think of Bibles, abortion, or homosexual special interest?

I was conservatively drunk the day my mom got out of the abortion clinic, and I went to pick her bible up in the RAIN. But before I could get to the bible emporium, she got runned over by a homosexual train.....
--New age Conservative David Allen Coe

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Now that's Conservativism. Why is it that when someone says conservative people think of Bibles, abortion, or homosexual special interest?

Holy smokes this has been my point. And I agree a lot with the principles stated there.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Now that's Conservativism. Why is it that when someone says conservative people think of Bibles, abortion, or homosexual special interest?

Because those are the people that jump on TV at any point that they can. The two groups aren't completely exclusive either, there's a lil Venn Diagram action going on there.