can WE now start a countdown to a new coach and qb

[Monkeydad]

Cutler:
17/36 (47.2%), 277 yds, 1 TD, 4 INTS, 43.2 rating

Sanchez:
18/31 (58.1%), 272 yds. 1 TD, 1 INT, 84.3 rating

Campbell:
19/26 (73.1%), 211 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT, 93.6 rating

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Buster

Cutler:
17/36 (47.2%), 277 yds, 1 TD, 4 INTS, 43.2 rating

Sanchez:
18/31 (58.1%), 272 yds. 1 TD, 1 INT, 84.3 rating

Campbell:
19/26 (73.1%), 211 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT, 93.6 rating

Almost half of Campbell’s yards came on that TD drive to Cooley when the Giants were playing prevent defense having been up by 2 TD’s. 73% completion percentage is easy when you’re throwing check downs to your TE, slot receiver and RB’s.

This is more telling.

#1 receiver – Moss – 2 catches for 6 yards
#2 receiver – Kelly – 1 catch for 6 yards

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Almost half of Campbell’s yards came on that TD drive to Cooley when the Giants were playing prevent defense having been up by 2 TD’s. 73% completion percentage is easy when you’re throwing check downs to your TE, slot receiver and RB’s.

This is more telling.

#1 receiver – Moss – 2 catches for 6 yards
#2 receiver – Kelly – 1 catch for 6 yards

Changing colors doesn't make your points any more valid. 70 out of 211 is not almost half. So now throwing to the slot receiver is a 'check down'. Define a check down for me. Randle El must be the best open field runner in NFL history if he got nearly 100 yards on 'check-downs'. In order for our offense to grow we need to get the outside WR more involved, no argument there. Also in order for that to happen, we need a huge improvement in play calling.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Changing colors doesn't make your points any more valid. 70 out of 211 is not almost half. So now throwing to the slot receiver is a 'check down'. Define a check down for me. Randle El must be the best open field runner in NFL history if he got nearly 100 yards on 'check-downs'. In order for our offense to grow we need to get the outside WR more involved, no argument there. Also in order for that to happen, we need a huge improvement in play calling.

Sorry about the color change I had pulled it from an email and yes that sounds like a good assement.

About my "dumbest" statement it was pulled out of context. I am saying this season is not a legit run at a Super Bowl, it is a make or break season for Zorn/Campbell and after yesterday's game it is looking more like break. More then anything I hope they do will I don't want to watch us rebuild again but sadly that looks like the road we are headed down and it is not just one game, I am looking back from week nine of last season. Right now from that point Zorn/Campbell are 2-9, really they are not tearing up the league.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Sorry about the color change I had pulled it from an email and yes that sounds like a good assement.

Plagiarism at its finest! Hey, I guess its acceptable now with our new VP.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Buster

Plagiarism at its finest! Hey, I guess its acceptable now with our new VP.

It was my own thought I was having an email fight with a co-worker as well as here. =)

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Sorry about the color change I had pulled it from an email and yes that sounds like a good assement.

About my "dumbest" statement it was pulled out of context. I am saying this season is not a legit run at a Super Bowl, it is a make or break season for Zorn/Campbell and after yesterday's game it is looking more like break. More then anything I hope they do will I don't want to watch us rebuild again but sadly that looks like the road we are headed down and it is not just one game, I am looking back from week nine of last season. Right now from that point Zorn/Campbell are 2-9, really they are not tearing up the league.

What's Portis, Fletcher, Cooley, Rogers and Bugel's record during that stretch?

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

What's Portis, Fletcher, Cooley, Rogers and Bugel's record during that stretch?

2-9 but when the AX comes it will be Zorn/ Campbell in Oakland or the street.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by mredskins

2-9 but when the AX comes it will be Zorn/ Campbell in Oakland or the street.

Actually, players come from Oakland to Washington, not the other way around.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Sorry about the color change I had pulled it from an email and yes that sounds like a good assement.

About my "dumbest" statement it was pulled out of context. I am saying this season is not a legit run at a Super Bowl, it is a make or break season for Zorn/Campbell and after yesterday's game it is looking more like break. More then anything I hope they do will I don't want to watch us rebuild again but sadly that looks like the road we are headed down and it is not just one game, I am looking back from week nine of last season. Right now from that point Zorn/Campbell are 2-9, really they are not tearing up the league.

Unfortunately giving context is not helping your statements.
1) Last year was last year. Let it go.
2) We are 0-1 this year, having lost what was likely our toughest divisional road game of the year. We lost by six points in the Giants' house. We were supposed to lose in their house, just as they should lose in ours. And, if we had gotten the onside kick, we might have won the game.

We can still make a Super Bowl run. And no one rebuilds from 0-1.

Giving up on the season now is like giving up on a college education because you got a D in the first grade.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Unfortunately giving context is not helping your statements.
1) Last year was last year. Let it go.
2) We are 0-1 this year, having lost what was likely our toughest divisional road game of the year. We lost by six points in the Giants' house. We were supposed to lose in their house, just as they should lose in ours. And, if we had gotten the onside kick, we might have won the game.

We can still make a Super Bowl run. And no one rebuilds from 0-1.

Giving up on the season now is like giving up on a college education because you got a D in the first grade.

Sorry but last year still counts it is part of their body of work. that is like saying "Hilter is such a nice guy." but he killed all those Jewish people, "Oh that was last year, silly, he has really turned around."

You just want me to forget about last year because it doesn't back up your opinion.

The score of the Giant's game just like last years score is misleading, at no time did the Giant's think they were not going home without a W.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Sorry but last year still counts it is part of their body of work. that is like saying "Hilter is such a nice guy." but he killed all those Jewish people, "Oh that was last year, silly, he has really turned around."

You just want me to forget about last year because it doesn't back up your opinion.

The score of the Giant's game just like last years score is misleading, at no time did the Giant's think they were not going home without a W.

So if that's the case then they are 8-9. You can't cherry pick what you want to support your stance.

Here's another wild and crazy theory, the Giants are good. They might make other NFL QB look worse than Campbell. I know, that's crazy talk, but it just may happen.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Sorry but last year still counts it is part of their body of work. that is like saying "Hilter is such a nice guy." but he killed all those Jewish people, "Oh that was last year, silly, he has really turned around."

You just want me to forget about last year because it doesn't back up your opinion.

The score of the Giant's game just like last years score is misleading, at no time did the Giant's think they were not going home without a W.

If you want to talk about the "body of work," then you have to include the first 8 games of last year, too. Curiously, you don't do that.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Almost half of Campbell’s yards came on that TD drive to Cooley when the Giants were playing prevent defense having been up by 2 TD’s. 73% completion percentage is easy when you’re throwing check downs to your TE, slot receiver and RB’s.

This is more telling.

#1 receiver – Moss – 2 catches for 6 yards
#2 receiver – Kelly – 1 catch for 6 yards

First of all, you're horrible at math. Secondly, if you want to nitpick about who made up his passing yards, 199 YDs to other receivers.

Would you prefer to have 4 INTs from Cutler?

I'll admit, that audible to a run on 3rd and long late in the game was HORRIBLE, but he'll learn from that mistake. Zorn will not let that mistake go unnoticed.

Whether Zorn makes good playcalls or not, you can't argue he's a perfectionist and demands perfection from his players, especially the QB position. If you're ever seen their practices, you'd know this.