Jason Campbell for Vince Young ? Who would you rather have?

[Redskin Warrior]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

The russell comparison was a joke dude.. lol and I would KILL myself if I was a Jets or Bears fan, hell we have 3 super bowl title's thats more than both of them combined, all I'm saying is JC can't get it done and you know it too.

can you honestly said that those QB's could have won the game today with the same personnel?

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

can you honestly said that those QB's could have won the game today with the same personnel?

I honestly don't know bro, Listen I like JC but he has a BAD record as a Starter, every year we make excuses for JC, and every year he struggles, as a die hard skins fan you have to agree that it's time for a change of QB and head coach

[Redskin Warrior]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I honestly don't know bro, Listen I like JC but he has a BAD record as a Starter, every year we make excuses for JC, and every year he struggles, as a die hard skins fan you have to agree that it's time for a change of QB and head coach

I'm fine with trying new blood but keep JC on as a backup TC should be getting ready to hang it up anyway soon. His age will catch up with him and his isn't Saunders offense and he struggled in the preseason. JC can be a NFL starter with the right tools and production from others.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

I'm fine with trying new blood but keep JC on as a backup TC should be getting ready to hang it up anyway soon. His age will catch up with him and his isn't Saunders offense and he struggled in the preseason. JC can be a NFL starter with the right tools and production from others.

I agree man, jc would be the best backup in the NFL and I'm not knocking him, the dude has heart but lacks real star talent

[Redskin Warrior]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I agree man, jc would be the best backup in the NFL and I'm not knocking him, the dude has heart but lacks real star talent

His talent is there but his development has been hindered tremendously. From high school to college there is an adjusment to be made whether it is the speed of the game or whatever same with the pros. Most high school & college QB's go through the same system throughout their 3 or 4 years. And if they do change systems it's once not more than that Campbell is in his seven or eight (not sure which one) system since his senior year in high school.

All four years in Auburn he changed systems and still lead his team to a 13-0 season. That's hard to have to learn a position on another level and a new system every year or so. And still manage to perform good enough to remain the starter every year. Rapid changes in agenda has made JC think more about things that most QB's get down pat in college. Matt Ryan you can tell he came from a pro-like system in college plus he was a 4-year starter in the same system as well. His growing pains aren't like JC at all.

I truly believe if he is in a system for at least three years consecutively he could be something special look at Brady he sitting behind Bledsoe in NE for a while in the same system. The Pats replaced coordinators but the system is still in place. Peyton changed from Mora's to Dungy look how long his was in that system 6 or 7 years at least before they won the big one. Eli has been under the same system since he was drafted in NY he looked like a bust at one time now he looks better than his brother at times. It's all about the right structure and stability we don't have it yet.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

His talent is there but his development has been hindered tremendously. From high school to college there is an adjusment to be made whether it is the speed of the game or whatever same with the pros. Most high school & college QB's go through the same system throughout their 3 or 4 years. And if they do change systems it's once not more than that Campbell is in his seven or eight (not sure which one) system since his senior year in high school.

All four years in Auburn he changed systems and still lead his team to a 13-0 season. That's hard to have to learn a position on another level and a new system every year or so. And still manage to perform good enough to remain the starter every year. Rapid changes in agenda has made JC think more about things that most QB's get down pat in college. Matt Ryan you can tell he came from a pro-like system in college plus he was a 4-year starter in the same system as well. His growing pains aren't like JC at all.

I truly believe if he is in a system for at least three years consecutively he could be something special look at Brady he sitting behind Bledsoe in NE for a while in the same system. The Pats replaced coordinators but the system is still in place. Peyton changed from Mora's to Dungy look how long his was in that system 6 or 7 years at least before they won the big one. Eli has been under the same system since he was drafted in NY he looked like a bust at one time now he looks better than his brother at times. It's all about the right structure and stability we don't have it yet.

We won't have stablity because Dan will fire Zorn and JC will not be back next season. So I guess we will have to learn a new system again. But the system we have now doesnt fit the players we have here on offense.