Our 2010 First Round Draft Pick Should Be...

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

For purposes of this discussion, I'd like to assume that Vinny will be gone and that we'll have a real GM by the time we draft.

With that in mind, maybe we will draft a LT in the first round. If so, then it would be nice to pick up QB Jake Locker in the early second round.

Locker won't be there in the second round. He'll come off the board in the top 15 picks, possibly be the 1st or 2nd QB taken.

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Miami probably wishes that they had taken a shot on Drew Brees and his surgically repaired shoulder. Not saying that Bradford is another Brees, but I agree that if Bradford's surgery and rehab are successful, he should be good to go physically.

Lou Holtz and others seem to think that Bradford's only problem is learning how to fall on his back. That, and a good weight training routine, should be enough to keep him on the field. I don't think he had an injury history before this year?

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

I think Campbell is damaged goods psychologically at this point. Analysts such as Jaws and Theismann have shown instances where Campbell checked down when there were plays available downfield - the guy is gun shy at this point. He will probably make a decent backup for somebody, but little more than that.

If we do draft Bradford, I want a long term coach in place, not a Holmgren who will walk away after 4 years the way Gibbs did. I envy the Eagles with Reid and McNabb being joined at the hip from day one. I want the next coach to be here for 10+ years, so I would prefer to look at someone in their early 40's to stabilize this franchise.

I agree w/Matty, he's highly unlikely to be here next season. I also agree w/you that he seems gun shy & has regressed this year. I still think he can be a decent starter, or would've been here if Al Saunders had been retained.

What I found interesting about Mort & Schef's comments last night is that it's such a foregone conclusion that the skins will be looking for a qb. They didn't say "if" just 'when.'

[MTK]

Well it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that Zorn is gone, and Vinny may not be far behind. Only makes sense that the QB is next on the chopping block.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I still don't understand why ppl want to take a QB with a shoulder injury (twice) and who needed season ending surgery.

Simply because he hasn't been injured before this year, and look at drew brees, that bad shoulder tear that he had a few years ago, seems to be doing just fine for him, if you ask me.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Well it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that Zorn is gone, and Vinny may not be far behind. Only makes sense that the QB is next on the chopping block.

agreed

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

I agree w/Matty, he's highly unlikely to be here next season. I also agree w/you that he seems gun shy & has regressed this year. I still think he can be a decent starter, or would've been here if Al Saunders had been retained.

What I found interesting about Mort & Schef's comments last night is that it's such a foregone conclusion that the skins will be looking for a qb. They didn't say "if" just 'when.'

Agree that remaining in Saunders' system was Campbell's greatest chance at success, but our lack of quality O-line depth would have killed any system. Perhaps the best lesson learned for Snyder in the Zorn experiment is that it's not the system stupid, it's the players. Detroit's WCO was garbage too when their O-line couldn't protect Harrington. Ditto here.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Agree that remaining in Saunders' system was Campbell's greatest chance at success, but our lack of quality O-line depth would have killed any system. Perhaps the best lesson learned for Snyder in the Zorn experiment is that it's not the system stupid, it's the players. Detroit's WCO was garbage too when their O-line couldn't protect Harrington. Ditto here.

true, he would've ended up on his back a lot. But often JC is panicking when pressure isn't there. If he had confidence in the plays at least he'd have half the battle won, now he has no confidence in the system or the o line.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

Locker won't be there in the second round. He'll come off the board in the top 15 picks, possibly be the 1st or 2nd QB taken.

We may think we know where a player will be drafted but there are always surprises. He could fall.

Do you think that there will be four QB's taken in the first round (Clausen, Bradford, Tebow, and Locker)?

In any event, I'd look to draft a QB in the second or fourth round. Perhaps Jevan Snead, Colt McCoy, Zac Robinson, Ryan Mallet, or Max Hall.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I thought I heard he should be able to transition to LT pretty easily in the NFL, or maybe I confused him with someone else

Probably Sergio Render who plays guard at Va Tech (not DeChristopher who's a RT) & is in most top 5 guard lists. He's a senior and pretty athletic. I could see him playing tackle in the nfl.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

I voted QB; however it really depends on where we draft, what players are available, and how deep the 2010 and 2011 drafts are at the QB and OL positions. it usually takes longer to develop a QB; where as 1st round OTs can usually start right away. If we are looking towards the future, and there was a "can't miss QB prospect sitting there," then drafting a QB would make the most sense. Our plan would be to draft a Qb with our 2010 1st round pick, draft an OT with our 2010 2nd round pick, and draft an OT with our 2011 1st round pick.

However, at this time, I personally don't think there will be any QBs available worth taking with a top 5 pick (which i presume we will have). However, alot can change between now and the draft and, in theory, taking a QB makes the most sense.

The absolute last thing we should do is draft a running back in the first or second rounds in 2010. Running backs have such a short "lifespan" of being productive in the NFL, we would be foolish to waste a high pick on a running back until we have a rock solid offensive line. Otherwise, the running back would be on the downside of his career before we had built up a good enough line around him.

Now, everything I just said goes out the window if the team does the smart thing and trades away all our "valuable veterans" for high draft picks (Haynesworth for 2 1st, Cooley for a 1st, Landry for a 2nd, etc.) We're rebuilding in a capless year - As much as we love some of them, there's no sense keeping these guys around.

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I voted QB; however it really depends on where we draft, what players are available, and how deep the 2010 and 2011 drafts are at the QB and OL positions. it usually takes longer to develop a QB; where as 1st round OTs can usually start right away. If we are looking towards the future, and there was a "can't miss QB prospect sitting there," then drafting a QB would make the most sense. Our plan would be to draft a Qb with our 2010 1st round pick, draft an OT with our 2010 2nd round pick, and draft an OT with our 2011 1st round pick.

However, at this time, I personally don't think there will be any QBs available worth taking with a top 5 pick (which i presume we will have). However, alot can change between now and the draft and, in theory, taking a QB makes the most sense.

The absolute last thing we should do is draft a running back in the first or second rounds in 2010. Running backs have such a short "lifespan" of being productive in the NFL, we would be foolish to waste a high pick on a running back until we have a rock solid offensive line. Otherwise, the running back would be on the downside of his career before we had built up a good enough line around him.

Now, everything I just said goes out the window if the team does the smart thing and trades away all our "valuable veterans" for high draft picks (Haynesworth for 2 1st, Cooley for a 1st, Landry for a 2nd, etc.) We're rebuilding in a capless year - As much as we love some of them, there's no sense keeping these guys around.

Someone has a limited grip on NFL reality. That proposal is positively stupid!

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

Someone has a limited grip on NFL reality. That proposal is positively stupid!

Someone should read BHA's post more often. That someone is you.

[GTripp0012]

It's worth noting that 13-16 NFL teams need offensive tackles like there is no tomorrow. The only advantage of picking in the top ten is that we can actually snag one of those guys before a majority of those teams have a shot.

Clearly there are other offensive needs as well, but especially in a light year for receivers (i.e. a year that teams who lack both receivers and OTs don't have the allure of a WR to keep them from creating a run on OTs), the Redskins NEED to capitalize on their draft position and get a tackle before it's too late.

Now, if for whatever reason, we end up picking closer to the middle of the round, then we'll probably have more reason to pick a RB or QB.

[RedskinMike]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I voted QB; however it really depends on where we draft, what players are available, and how deep the 2010 and 2011 drafts are at the QB and OL positions. it usually takes longer to develop a QB; where as 1st round OTs can usually start right away. If we are looking towards the future, and there was a "can't miss QB prospect sitting there," then drafting a QB would make the most sense. Our plan would be to draft a Qb with our 2010 1st round pick, draft an OT with our 2010 2nd round pick, and draft an OT with our 2011 1st round pick.

However, at this time, I personally don't think there will be any QBs available worth taking with a top 5 pick (which i presume we will have). However, alot can change between now and the draft and, in theory, taking a QB makes the most sense.

The absolute last thing we should do is draft a running back in the first or second rounds in 2010. Running backs have such a short "lifespan" of being productive in the NFL, we would be foolish to waste a high pick on a running back until we have a rock solid offensive line. Otherwise, the running back would be on the downside of his career before we had built up a good enough line around him.

Now, everything I just said goes out the window if the team does the smart thing and trades away all our "valuable veterans" for high draft picks (Haynesworth for 2 1st, Cooley for a 1st, Landry for a 2nd, etc.) We're rebuilding in a capless year - As much as we love some of them, there's no sense keeping these guys around.

In no way is Haynesworth traded even for 2 1sts, then the skins would have paid him 40 + million for one season. No chance that happens.