The D. Hall incident

CRedskinsRule · 11-09-2009, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FalconsFan

If that's what you want to believe.. I saw it live and on video replay.. Hall is a punk and he instigated the entire mess.

ok he instigated it. let's say I agree, does that justify two of your coaches making very bad decisions. I saw it live and on the video in this thread also. yay

Rajmahal33 · 11-09-2009, 12:55 PM

It is never ok for a coach to put his hand on a player (esp that of an opposing team), just like it is never ok for anyone to put their hands on a referee. Imagine if the situation was reversed and hall had pushed Smith or one of the members of the ATL coaching staff. You can bet your bottom dollar that Goodell would be handing out an unprecedented suspension to whoever that player may be, much less D. Hall.

This issue has nothing to do with the player and coach in the scenario, the reputation of either party, or the circumstances surrounding the incident (unless someone genuinely felt that another person's long term health or life was at stake, neither of which was the case). This is a plain black and white issue, no gray area.

It almost reminds me of the NBA's bench rule. No matter what the issue or profile of the player, if they leave the bench for any reason during a fight, it's an automatic 1-game suspension. I think football should institute a similar rule involving player-coach interactions.

Paintrain · 11-09-2009, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FalconsFan

...and you're defending Hall's actions why?

I like to debate with you all.. some of you are so delusional that you're sticking up for Hall.. that's always good for a laugh. At least some of you are bright enough to see Hall for what he is. (Love the Title of this thread)

Not specifically defending his actions per say but simply saying that it wasn't as one sided as some fans with agendas try to paint it.

I was in Atlanta for Hall's first 2 years so the revisionist history and short memories of Falcons' fans is pretty funny to me.

Paintrain · 11-09-2009, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pg86

Bottom line the coach is wrong for getting into it rather Hall was wrong or right wtf your professional athletes people see you on tv if Im in the office of the NFL i'm suspending both of them. .

That's silly, you're not suspending someone who didn't throw a punch.

calia · 11-09-2009, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

It's funny how the same cast of characters will shred anything that certain players (Hall, Thomas, Portis, Haynesworth, Campbell) do or say REGARDLESS OF THE EVIDENCE! There's a great breakdown done on the DC Sports Bog (D.C. Sports Bog - Inside the DeAngelo Hall sideline melee) that neither implicates nor absolves Hall of wrongdoing but clearly shows that at WORST it's 50/50. If Rogers had done the same exact thing, or even worse, would there be the same outcry? How about McIntosh? Don't give me 'well they wouldn't do something like that anyways' BS either. Some of you guys have such agendas it removes all credibility from your opinions.

Not to be forgotten, this write-up was pretty damn funny too.

Monkeydad · 11-09-2009, 01:16 PM

Another mature thread title.

MonkFan4Life · 11-09-2009, 01:19 PM

First of all everyone is so eager to say that it's The Skins' fault. Be real now, that situation didn't even have to be that bad. Hall 1 guy was there. A whole team including their coach that was upset for the late hit. Not one time do you see Mike Smith pulling his players away rather grabbing a player and yelling. You see other Falcons players going over to the 1 player that was there. Once Redskins players come to pull Hall away you still have the players and said coach keeping it going, not trying to calm the situation down but adding fuel to the fire. Then Haynesworth comes over and shoves the people back away from the now 2-3 players attempting to back up and he's a knucklehead ? Get the fuck out of here. If that was a Falcons player and the Redskins bench was over there with them you all would be bitching and moaning about how the Skisna acted like a bunch of jackasses. Call it the same way you would if it were the other way around. Everyone did what they would do to "protect" their teams. Let it go man. If you can blast Haynesworth for doing what he did then I don't know what you expect them to do.

calia · 11-09-2009, 01:23 PM

Frankly, I was pleased that (finally) some of the Redskins players came over as backup. When it was just Hall and no one came over, I was just disgusted. It reminded me of the time Jeff George got dragged across the field in Dallas near the end of one of our more embarrassing losses, and no one did anything. (And I never even liked Jeff George.) But if someone is dogging one of your mates, you go after them at the risk of a penalty, it seems to me.

KLHJ2 · 11-09-2009, 01:25 PM

I'm happy that the fight broke out. It sparked the game.

I have absolutely no problems with what the Redskins did. What it did do is justify (in my mind) why I think that ATL has zero class.

Ruhskins · 11-09-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

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Originally Posted by FalconsFan
If that's what you want to believe.. I saw it live and on video replay.. Hall is a punk and he instigated the entire mess.

Yep everything you say is correct. Unfortunately we have some fans that think cause the skins paid him big money that he is some kind of superstar. I can't wait till they play Oakland and he tries that shit on their sideline. Tom "Jawbreaker, Womanbeater" Cable will kick his ass.

Dude you're siding with another team's fan against your own team? Turn in your card.

Paintrain · 11-09-2009, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Dude you're siding with another team's fan against your own team? Turn in your card.

He's an agenda fan. Certain players are good and always right. Others suck and are always wrong. Don't waste your time.

Ruhskins · 11-09-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

He's an agenda fan. Certain players are good and always right. Others suck and are always wrong. Don't waste your time.

No shit. I mean damn, if you f'ing hate a player on "your" team that much, why even bother.

Anyway, I hope the league looks into this situation.

Redskins Insider - Zorn expects league to look into Hall-Smith incident

dmek25 · 11-09-2009, 02:01 PM

bottom line. if the falcons would have lost, would falconsfan be here? quit trolling

Redskins_P · 11-09-2009, 02:25 PM

Its really sad to see DeAngelo surrounded by the entire Falcon team and not one player from the defense comes over to help him or come to his defense. Just goes to show how f-ed up our locker room is.

SFREDSKIN · 11-09-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Dude you're siding with another team's fan against your own team? Turn in your card.

I guess you can't accept the truth about DH, I said nothing against the Redskins. I guess you just can't find anything else but to make me look bad since I disagree with you. I guess most of writers of the articles about what happened must be wrong and you are right?

11-09-2009, 12:55 PM	#62
Rajmahal33 Special Teams Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 478	re: The D. Hall incident It is never ok for a coach to put his hand on a player (esp that of an opposing team), just like it is never ok for anyone to put their hands on a referee. Imagine if the situation was reversed and hall had pushed Smith or one of the members of the ATL coaching staff. You can bet your bottom dollar that Goodell would be handing out an unprecedented suspension to whoever that player may be, much less D. Hall. This issue has nothing to do with the player and coach in the scenario, the reputation of either party, or the circumstances surrounding the incident (unless someone genuinely felt that another person's long term health or life was at stake, neither of which was the case). This is a plain black and white issue, no gray area. It almost reminds me of the NBA's bench rule. No matter what the issue or profile of the player, if they leave the bench for any reason during a fight, it's an automatic 1-game suspension. I think football should institute a similar rule involving player-coach interactions. __________________ McNasty FTW!

11-09-2009, 01:16 PM	#66
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 46 Posts: 17,460	re: The D. Hall incident Another mature thread title. __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

11-09-2009, 01:19 PM	#67
MonkFan4Life The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 48 Posts: 1,851	re: The D. Hall incident First of all everyone is so eager to say that it's The Skins' fault. Be real now, that situation didn't even have to be that bad. Hall 1 guy was there. A whole team including their coach that was upset for the late hit. Not one time do you see Mike Smith pulling his players away rather grabbing a player and yelling. You see other Falcons players going over to the 1 player that was there. Once Redskins players come to pull Hall away you still have the players and said coach keeping it going, not trying to calm the situation down but adding fuel to the fire. Then Haynesworth comes over and shoves the people back away from the now 2-3 players attempting to back up and he's a knucklehead ? Get the fuck out of here. If that was a Falcons player and the Redskins bench was over there with them you all would be bitching and moaning about how the Skisna acted like a bunch of jackasses. Call it the same way you would if it were the other way around. Everyone did what they would do to "protect" their teams. Let it go man. If you can blast Haynesworth for doing what he did then I don't know what you expect them to do. __________________ Catch me on YouTube ! http://www.youtube.com/user/DowntimeRB?feature=mhw5 The "punishment" by the league : "It's like getting a ticket for going too fast on a road a week ago and they changed the speed limit today"

11-09-2009, 01:23 PM	#68
calia Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Woodside, CA Age: 57 Posts: 3,747	re: The D. Hall incident Frankly, I was pleased that (finally) some of the Redskins players came over as backup. When it was just Hall and no one came over, I was just disgusted. It reminded me of the time Jeff George got dragged across the field in Dallas near the end of one of our more embarrassing losses, and no one did anything. (And I never even liked Jeff George.) But if someone is dogging one of your mates, you go after them at the risk of a penalty, it seems to me.

11-09-2009, 01:25 PM	#69
KLHJ2 Inactive Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: DC Metro Area Age: 47 Posts: 5,829	re: The D. Hall incident I'm happy that the fight broke out. It sparked the game. I have absolutely no problems with what the Redskins did. What it did do is justify (in my mind) why I think that ATL has zero class.

11-09-2009, 02:01 PM	#73
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	re: The D. Hall incident bottom line. if the falcons would have lost, would falconsfan be here? quit trolling __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

11-09-2009, 02:25 PM	#74
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 47 Posts: 4,101	re: The D. Hall incident Its really sad to see DeAngelo surrounded by the entire Falcon team and not one player from the defense comes over to help him or come to his defense. Just goes to show how f-ed up our locker room is.

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