Who Stays And Who Goes? Perceptions Changing?

[MTK]

A new coach is definitely going to mean significant changes, especially at QB. I'm almost starting to wish we could just keep Zorn and make Sherman Lewis the full-time OC/play-caller, build up the OL, keep JC, and go from there.

[Nomad]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

A new coach is definitely going to mean significant changes, especially at QB. I'm almost starting to wish we could just keep Zorn and make Sherman Lewis the full-time OC/play-caller, build up the OL, keep JC, and go from there.

Man I don't like to seem like i'm sucking up.... but I agree 100% this seem's like, this is turning out pretty damn well, giving the circumstances. but Matty, we need a new GM, that's the only thing, if thing's do workout, that can save all of them right now.

[johno]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

A new coach is definitely going to mean significant changes, especially at QB. I'm almost starting to wish we could just keep Zorn and make Sherman Lewis the full-time OC/play-caller, build up the OL, keep JC, and go from there.

This is exactly what I was going to say. If possible, add some draft picks with

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Say goodbye to Randy Thomas, Samuels (when he retires) Betts, Daniels, Griffin, Randle-El, Smoot, Suisham, Trade Landry for a 1st round pick.

with your powers combined...

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by johno

with your powers combined...

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[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

A new coach is definitely going to mean significant changes, especially at QB. I'm almost starting to wish we could just keep Zorn and make Sherman Lewis the full-time OC/play-caller, build up the OL, keep JC, and go from there.

Slow down a little bit there.. Yes the Lewis play calling change has been an unquestioned positive move, let's also remember that this combo is 1-5. Zorn still has glaring weaknesses as a head coach (clock management, decisions on when to be aggressive vs. conservative, etc.) that will likely continue to cost us. Let's also remember that Lewis is 67 and may not want to have a full time OC job anymore.

I am 50/50 on Campbell returning. I think he's got the tools to be a solid, not great, QB in the league. Protect him well, give him weapons and he can win you 10 games a year. If things around him start to fall apart, he's not going to be able to lift the entire offense on his back however so the next coach should examine if that's something he can live with. I honestly don't think there is a better QB who will be available on the free agent/trade market but I also don't see him coming back if we draft a QB in the 1st round either.

I'm loving what I've been seeing from Thomas the past few weeks. He's starting to show ability and more importantly, consistency. If he can continue to develop, Kelly keeps coming on, Mitchell keeps coming on, we can move Moss into the slot (imagine him in a Welker role?) and can finally have a strong WR group.

On defense, if we replace Rogers and move Landry to SS then I will be quite happy in 2010.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Slow down a little bit there.. Yes the Lewis play calling change has been an unquestioned positive move, let's also remember that this combo is 1-5. Zorn still has glaring weaknesses as a head coach (clock management, decisions on when to be aggressive vs. conservative, etc.) that will likely continue to cost us. Let's also remember that Lewis is 67 and may not want to have a full time OC job anymore.

I know it's unlikely to happen, Sherm was brought in as a band-aid and not much else. But it just seems that once we start to see a glimmer of what could be, we're going to blow it all up again. But at the end of the day you are what your record says you are, and at 3-9 changes are needed, probably drastic ones.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

A new coach is definitely going to mean significant changes, especially at QB. I'm almost starting to wish we could just keep Zorn and make Sherman Lewis the full-time OC/play-caller, build up the OL, keep JC, and go from there.

I almost think this is the way to go too. More change is just going to mean set backs. We'll see.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

A new coach is definitely going to mean significant changes, especially at QB. I'm almost starting to wish we could just keep Zorn and make Sherman Lewis the full-time OC/play-caller, build up the OL, keep JC, and go from there.

From your lips to Danny Boy's ears, Matty...

[mike340]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

A new coach is definitely going to mean significant changes, especially at QB. I'm almost starting to wish we could just keep Zorn and make Sherman Lewis the full-time OC/play-caller, build up the OL, keep JC, and go from there.

I agree. Four weeks ago I wanted to ditch JC so badly. One of the things I kept on harping about was he couldn't throw a touch pass. Yesterday he threw several! In addition it seems he's getting rid of the ball faster. I don't think it's a coincidence that Zorn has more time to work with the QB and we're seeing dramatic improvement in JC's play.

Things are starting to gel. Look at the way they've played in the last four weeks against teams that are a combined 36-12! I think they deserved to win 3 of the 4. Now we have to see what they do in the last 4 games. If they play good football I wouldn't like to shake it up too much. I'm also not so bothered the Sherm x 2 situation. If it works, it works. If it keeps the players from lobbying with the coaches this may be a good thing.

In addition, I'm sure that Zorn doesn't mind (so much) having a reduced role in play-calling if the team is winning.

In summary, Zorn's responsibilities seem to be working with and motivating the team, as well as working with JC. This seems to be functioning very well.

In addition, the playcalling seems to be very good now, so that's also a big improvement.

Lastly, now that the receivers from last year are starting to work out, it appears that the draft wasn't so bad after all, except in terms of our offensive line. So we're not so far off from being a good team. But, if we look to next year, we should be able to get some OL help.

As to what else could be improved, I have to think that the DBs can (and must) practice catching the football. I think back to where they dropped 2 patty-cake interceptions. In addition, they must do something about the field goals. Whether it's teaching Suisham what to do when it's an important kick (he seemed to be rushing yesterday when setting up for the winning field goal) or getting someone else I don't care. And Fletch needs to explain the facts of football life to Landry. I mean, yesterday in regulation it was
Washington 30
Landry 14
Referees 7
New Orleans 9

It's absolutely amazing that this group of "dregs" from the beginning of the season outplayed a 12-0 team that was NOT off its game.