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Old 12-09-2009, 03:06 PM   #1
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Re: The Real Leader of this Team and Some Radical Ideas

Zorn is not a great leader, He is holding on to a job that pays him millions. If I was Zorn, I'd do the same thing.. You can do what you want, say what you want about me, make me look like a total puss to the public, but as long as I have the title of headcoach you have to pay me and if you fire me you STILL have to pay me.

I think Vinny has done a good job, the problem is that both Vinny and Snyder listens to the media and us fans way too much. For years we complained about not having big targets and no definsive line/ pass rush so they addressed that area. If there was any free agents available on the offensive line worth something over the last 2 years, I'm sure they would have brought them in. We pushed hard Leonard Davis and if Jordan Gross made it to the free market he would be a Redskin right now. No one could have foreseen what was going to happen to Samuels and Portis for that matter. I am confident that the Line will be a priority this offseason.

As nice as Zorn is, he not ready to be a NFL head coach. The truth is that Snyder should have stuck to his guns and brought in Fassel. He has crippled the growth of Zorn as a NFL coach by overwhelming him.

What should be done?
Either they comletely clean house bring in a whole new regiem or promote from within. Gray could be a good Headcoach. If he keeps Lewis as the OC and Blanche stays on as the DC we will make the playoffs. The strength of schedule will be weaker next year. Also they could invest in a JC as the QB of the future.

But we all know Shannahan wil be the coach and they will hand pick his future QB in this years draft. JC will be out of here and a vet like Vick, Hasselbeck or someone will be here until the rookie is ready to take over the team.
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Old 12-09-2009, 03:24 PM   #2
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Re: The Real Leader of this Team and Some Radical Ideas

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Zorn is not a great leader, He is holding on to a job that pays him millions. If I was Zorn, I'd do the same thing.. You can do what you want, say what you want about me, make me look like a total puss to the public, but as long as I have the title of headcoach you have to pay me and if you fire me you STILL have to pay me.

I think Vinny has done a good job, the problem is that both Vinny and Snyder listens to the media and us fans way too much. For years we complained about not having big targets and no definsive line/ pass rush so they addressed that area. If there was any free agents available on the offensive line worth something over the last 2 years, I'm sure they would have brought them in. We pushed hard Leonard Davis and if Jordan Gross made it to the free market he would be a Redskin right now. No one could have foreseen what was going to happen to Samuels and Portis for that matter. I am confident that the Line will be a priority this offseason.

As nice as Zorn is, he not ready to be a NFL head coach. The truth is that Snyder should have stuck to his guns and brought in Fassel. He has crippled the growth of Zorn as a NFL coach by overwhelming him.

What should be done?
Either they comletely clean house bring in a whole new regiem or promote from within. Gray could be a good Headcoach. If he keeps Lewis as the OC and Blanche stays on as the DC we will make the playoffs. The strength of schedule will be weaker next year. Also they could invest in a JC as the QB of the future.

But we all know Shannahan wil be the coach and they will hand pick his future QB in this years draft. JC will be out of here and a vet like Vick, Hasselbeck or someone will be here until the rookie is ready to take over the team.

Why anyone would want Vick to run a west coast style offense is beyond me. He cant throw the short crossing or out routes on a consistant basis because of his size. he can throw the ball down field, but really he is not a very good QB. Why people are infantuated with this dude is beyond me.
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Old 12-09-2009, 05:40 PM   #3
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Why anyone would want Vick to run a west coast style offense is beyond me. He cant throw the short crossing or out routes on a consistant basis because of his size. he can throw the ball down field, but really he is not a very good QB. Why people are infantuated with this dude is beyond me.
because we are for the most part in virginia and there are a lot of virginia tech homers out there that think vick is god and can do no wrong

i don't get it either he was good, never great, and he has obviously lost a step
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Old 12-09-2009, 03:41 PM   #4
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Zorn is not a great leader, He is holding on to a job that pays him millions. If I was Zorn, I'd do the same thing.. You can do what you want, say what you want about me, make me look like a total puss to the public, but as long as I have the title of headcoach you have to pay me and if you fire me you STILL have to pay me.

I think Vinny has done a good job, the problem is that both Vinny and Snyder listens to the media and us fans way too much. For years we complained about not having big targets and no definsive line/ pass rush so they addressed that area. If there was any free agents available on the offensive line worth something over the last 2 years, I'm sure they would have brought them in. We pushed hard Leonard Davis and if Jordan Gross made it to the free market he would be a Redskin right now. No one could have foreseen what was going to happen to Samuels and Portis for that matter. I am confident that the Line will be a priority this offseason.

As nice as Zorn is, he not ready to be a NFL head coach. The truth is that Snyder should have stuck to his guns and brought in Fassel. He has crippled the growth of Zorn as a NFL coach by overwhelming him.

What should be done?
Either they comletely clean house bring in a whole new regiem or promote from within. Gray could be a good Headcoach. If he keeps Lewis as the OC and Blanche stays on as the DC we will make the playoffs. The strength of schedule will be weaker next year. Also they could invest in a JC as the QB of the future.

But we all know Shannahan wil be the coach and they will hand pick his future QB in this years draft. JC will be out of here and a vet like Vick, Hasselbeck or someone will be here until the rookie is ready to take over the team.
After watching Vick play a brokedown wildcat form for an actually decent Philly team, I can only think Vick's half the QB he used to be. Dude's not starting material anymore, imo.
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Old 12-09-2009, 03:54 PM   #5
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After watching Vick play a brokedown wildcat form for an actually decent Philly team, I can only think Vick's half the QB he used to be. Dude's not starting material anymore, imo.
I feel you right about Vick, but Snyder listens to the fans. There are enough dumb ass people out here blindly screaming for Vick to be a starting QB, even heard Lavar say it on the radio once!
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Old 12-09-2009, 07:45 PM   #6
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Although unlikely, leaving things in place and staying the course with Zorn seems like a good idea at this point. The thing thats important here is consistency- Zorn obviously has some skills, i.e. motivating players. Why not put him in a capacity where the organization can make the most use of his skills at the moment without complete overhaul?
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