Report: Shanahan in Talks with Redskins

[TIFOSOdeiREDSKINS]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I was thinking the same thing but couldn't put into words.

I often wondered why minorities and non minorities don't get upset about affirmative action. To me it send two negative messages:

1) The Gov. is applying a rule that discriminates against non minorities.

2) It sends a message that minorities can't get a job based on their own qualifications. If I was a minority I think I would be mad that I was given the job solely because the business needed to hire a minority vs. me being better qualified then the other applicants and getting the job due to hard work and diligence.

I do understand that there are lots and lots of instances where minorities are discriminated against because they are a minority, and they don't get the job even though they are the better candidate.

I don't know. I don't mean to piss people off but the message just seems bad. (A) We will discriminate against non minorities in order to correct a wrong against minorities, and (B) The Gov. is calling minorities inferior and making a law to level the playing field. I know the law was put in place to combat discrimination but it should be changed to either protect all americans no matter what color or nationality or eliminate it all together. If we keep the law then tweek it so the business or whoever is punished severely for their discrimination.

but as someone else said ...in the NFL its kinda the old boys club and they would interview the janitor and say we interviewed someone to satisfy the rule instead of actually interviewing a qualified candidate or they would interview a qualified applicant to only give it to who they want to be their next GM or HC. The law only says they have to interview someone not that they have to be qualified or seriously considered.

cosign. i agree to a T. to quote the the first sentence of your post, "I was thinking the same thing but couldn't put into words"!

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by TIFOSOdeiREDSKINS

cosign. i agree to a T. to quote the the first sentence of your post, "I was thinking the same thing but couldn't put into words"!

I don't understand how the Rooney Rule discriminates against non-minorities. Can you all please show me an instance in which a non-minority candidate did not get the chance to interview because of the Rooney Rule?

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I don't understand how the Rooney Rule discriminates against non-minorities. Can you all please show me an instance in which a non-minority candidate did not get the chance to interview because of the Rooney Rule?

If you are a non-minority you do not have to be interviewed. If a owner interviews only minority canidates, non-minority canidates will be discriminated against.

Other then that a perfectly good rule.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

If you are a non-minority you do not have to be interviewed. If a owner interviews only minority canidates, non-minority canidates will be discriminated against.

Other then that a perfectly good rule.

And given the history of the NFL, do you really think this is going to happen?

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

And given the history of the NFL, do you really think this is going to happen?

Yeah at some point. I dont think when my grandmother (Grammy) fled Czechoslovakia she ever thought there would be a black (or communist! (j/k)) American president in her lifetime, at least 50 years ago.

I think the point SBXVII is making is that whenever you make a decision to hire someone it should be based solely on merit and skin color or sex (imagine a female coach, now that’s progressive!) shouldn’t play a part in that decision. The government is saying that it should. Things like the affirmative action or the Rooney Rule (not govt. right?) say hey race needs to be considered when making a hiring decision. I think in the case of affirmative action, when 2 equally qualified persons apply for a job where one is a white male and the other is not the person who is not has to get the job for certain size organizations. Obviously the Rooney Rule doesn’t go this far, but I guess other rules go further like many public colleges in their application decisions. So its just however you want to run your organization. That’s cool with me, its your organization.

I personally have no beef with the Rooney Rule, but like all the other rules it gives the impression (to some ignorant individuals) that minorities have to be given a shot because they cant make it on merit alone. If they just make the rules indifferent based on race, and say everyone had to be given a equal chance. So if the Rooney Rule said white males had to be interviewed also (which in this day-and-age wouldn’t change anything), it would remove a lot of the perceived notions that minorities cant get it done on their own, or all owners are raciest, or Danny Snyder has to get the biggest named coach before looking anywhere else first.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

If you are a non-minority you do not have to be interviewed. If a owner interviews only minority canidates, non-minority canidates will be discriminated against.

Other then that a perfectly good rule.

If this started happening they would include non-minorities to the rule. This is just crap.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

If you are a non-minority you do not have to be interviewed. If a owner interviews only minority canidates, non-minority canidates will be discriminated against.

Other then that a perfectly good rule.

You sound like Rush Limbaugh. Please stop while you are behind.