Mega-Merge: 2010 Free Agency Rumors and Reports Thread

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Giantone

...see post #951

Yes, let's return to that post. In that scenario either Phillips or Rolle must move to strong safety. So tell me which scenario will play out:
1) you just paid record safety money for a guy to change positions, or
2) you are counting on a guy who can hardly walk right now to switch positions

Neither scenario sounds very good to me.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Yes, let's return to that post. In that scenario either Phillips or Rolle must move to strong safety. So tell me which scenario will play out:
1) you just paid record safety money for a guy to change positions, or
2) you are counting on a guy who can hardly walk right now to switch positions

Neither scenario sounds very good to me.

Looking at it like that I understand but not very many people have that view and according to Rolle he can't wait to play with Phillips ....no matter what position.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

I would like to echo the sentiments of those of you who are somewhat "concerned" about how our roster is shaping up. Friday, we cut 10 players, 8-9 of whom (when healthy) would have been on our 45-man gameday roster. So far, we've only signed one guy. Now, there's still plenty of time for further roster upgrades. free agency isnt over and there's still the draft. However, we've only got 5 draft picks and only 2 of those picks could legitimately be expected to make the 45-man gameday roster.

i generally agree with all the cuts that were made - but why cut a guy if you're not going to replace him with someone better? i understand the free agent class is/was somewhat weak, but why didn't we lock up pashos, for example? we need help at both tackle positions and he would have been a huge upgrade over heyer. i am glad we didnt go out and try to sign everyone, like we have done in years past, but i feel that perhaps shanahan and allen are being a bit too frugal. they keep saying they have a plan, but i dont see how any possible plan will result in this team having more talent on the roster in 2010 than it did in 2009 if we end up filling most of the holes with 4th-tier free agents and undrafted rookies... which is what it looks like we'll be doing now.

on a side note, someone on ES claims DCsportsradio sent a twitter saying another team offered us a trade for a player and that, if it happens, it will happen today. someone there suggested Landry for Gathier would be a good trade, and I agree. we've got too many good strong safeties on the roster and we need a left tackle.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I would like to echo the sentiments of those of you who are somewhat "concerned" about how our roster is shaping up. Friday, we cut 10 players, 8-9 of whom (when healthy) would have been on our 45-man gameday roster. So far, we've only signed one guy. Now, there's still plenty of time for further roster upgrades. free agency isnt over and there's still the draft. However, we've only got 5 draft picks and only 2 of those picks could legitimately be expected to make the 45-man gameday roster.

i generally agree with all the cuts that were made - but why cut a guy if you're not going to replace him with someone better? i understand the free agent class is/was somewhat weak, but why didn't we lock up pashos, for example? we need help at both tackle positions and he would have been a huge upgrade over heyer. i am glad we didnt go out and try to sign everyone, like we have done in years past, but i feel that perhaps shanahan and allen are being a bit too frugal. they keep saying they have a plan, but i dont see how any possible plan will result in this team having more talent on the roster in 2010 than it did in 2009 if we end up filling most of the holes with 4th-tier free agents and undrafted rookies... which is what it looks like we'll be doing now.

on a side note, someone on ES claims DCsportsradio sent a twitter saying another team offered us a trade for a player and that, if it happens, it will happen today. someone there suggested Landry for Gathier would be a good trade, and I agree. we've got too many good strong safeties on the roster and we need a left tackle.

Honestly a lot of it simply comes down to dumping older players with high salaries.

As far as the talent level goes I would argue we can find younger/cheaper players that can do as good or a better job. A lot of these "holes" are going to be filled from within as well from guys stepping up.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

we all know that profootballtalk.com gets all its breaking redskins news from extremeskins.com - the best source of redskins news and facts on the entire planet. generally speaking, i have found that the only place that has more accurate information than extremeskins.com is wikipedia.

from Gaither's wikipedia page:

Jared Gaither - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Trade rumors began swirling on March 7, 2010. The Ravens reportedly might look to trade Gaither in exchange for a first or second round draft choice and then move 2009 first round draft choice Michael Oher to the blindside. The Redskins reportedly offered their second round draft choice in exchange for the 23 year old tackle. [5]

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

we all know that profootballtalk.com gets all its breaking redskins news from extremeskins.com - the best source of redskins news and facts on the entire planet. generally speaking, i have found that the only place that has more accurate information than extremeskins.com is wikipedia.

from Gaither's wikipedia page:

Jared Gaither - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Did you happen to see them talking trash on us over there?

Attention Members Of The Media - Page 14 - EXTREMESKINS.com

I'm surprised that a board as big and important as ES would even care about what our little ol' site has to say.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Did you happen to see them talking trash on us over there?

Attention Members Of The Media - Page 14 - EXTREMESKINS.com

I'm surprised that a board as big and important as ES would even care about what our little ol' site has to say.

time to hand over that nickname matty haha

TK's outburst was pathetic at best; honestly if I were a reporter without many sources why wouldn't you go to a place that has a lot of the info collected together? It's only logical.

But to act like it's all media on there that's slowing stuff down? haha.. beginning of free agency there are just a lot of fans that don't post/have accounts checking it out.

the next guy did back up what I was saying though

EXTREMESKINS.com - View Single Post - Attention Members Of The Media

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I would like to echo the sentiments of those of you who are somewhat "concerned" about how our roster is shaping up. Friday, we cut 10 players, 8-9 of whom (when healthy) would have been on our 45-man gameday roster. So far, we've only signed one guy. Now, there's still plenty of time for further roster upgrades. free agency isnt over and there's still the draft. However, we've only got 5 draft picks and only 2 of those picks could legitimately be expected to make the 45-man gameday roster.

i generally agree with all the cuts that were made - but why cut a guy if you're not going to replace him with someone better? i understand the free agent class is/was somewhat weak, but why didn't we lock up pashos, for example? we need help at both tackle positions and he would have been a huge upgrade over heyer. i am glad we didnt go out and try to sign everyone, like we have done in years past, but i feel that perhaps shanahan and allen are being a bit too frugal. they keep saying they have a plan, but i dont see how any possible plan will result in this team having more talent on the roster in 2010 than it did in 2009 if we end up filling most of the holes with 4th-tier free agents and undrafted rookies... which is what it looks like we'll be doing now.

on a side note, someone on ES claims DCsportsradio sent a twitter saying another team offered us a trade for a player and that, if it happens, it will happen today. someone there suggested Landry for Gathier would be a good trade, and I agree. we've got too many good strong safeties on the roster and we need a left tackle.

Could we not eventually resign those players for more reasonable contracts?

[johno]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

i understand the free agent class is/was somewhat weak, but why didn't we lock up pashos, for example? we need help at both tackle positions and he would have been a huge upgrade over heyer. i am glad we didnt go out and try to sign everyone, like we have done in years past, but i feel that perhaps shanahan and allen are being a bit too frugal. they keep saying they have a plan, but i dont see how any possible plan will result in this team having more talent on the roster in 2010 than it did in 2009 if we end up filling most of the holes with 4th-tier free agents and undrafted rookies... which is what it looks like we'll be doing now.

I understand being concerned, but as you said, there is still a whole bunch of time between now and the beginning of the season. I believe that if Shanny/BA wanted/needed Pashos bad enough, we would have gotten him.

Is it possible, albeit scary, that Foerester and the Shanhans have enough confidence in the guys already here to make a respectable oline?

Time will tell.

[doughtydoubter]

Isnt it crazy after years and years of big free agent splashes, exciting moves, and a win it all this year attitude, those of us who were crying for vinny to blow it up and build a strong team somehow became addicted to the flashy, spendthrift identity that is the snyder redskins!
Now that we arent making "upgrades" or sexy trades to replace holes, some of us are in panic! Ive even heard from a few people that we didnt get peppers only because "danny finally ran out of money"

you guys relax! got to give them at least two drafts, two full seasons before we send the lynch mob in!

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by doughtydoubter

Isnt it crazy after years and years of big free agent splashes, exciting moves, and a win it all this year attitude, those of us who were crying for vinny to blow it up and build a strong team somehow became addicted to the flashy, spendthrift identity that is the snyder redskins!
Now that we arent making "upgrades" or sexy trades to replace holes, some of us are in panic! Ive even heard from a few people that we didnt get peppers only because "danny finally ran out of money"

you guys relax! got to give them at least two drafts, two full seasons before we send the lynch mob in!

Two drafts? People are frothing at the mouth over two days! ha ha

People do need to remember that, so far, this is the weakest free agent period in years. So it really makes no sense to spend a lot this year.

For example, Rolle and Dansby. Rolle was drafted as a corner and failed. They stuck him at safety to see if they could get some production out of him but it really was an experiment. He is young and makes the Pro-bowl but they let him go? He hits the market and is made the second highest paid safety in the league this year. I think the Cardinals know something the rest of the league doesn't.

On Dansby, I think he is more of a sure thing than Rolle but $43 million dollars? I think I heard one analyst say that Dansby is a "second wave" guy if this was a normal year in FA.

Traditionally, there are several releases during the year. In the past, there were several years where I felt like we blew our wad the first day and missed out on some values later in the offseason. As it stands right now, we can pick up whoever we want. That is a good thing.