Jon Gruden's QB Camp

[SmootSmack]

McShay's no less a scout than Kiper, he just hasn't been around as long as Kiper.

[GMScud]

A tip of the cap to Angry for keeping the mood light. LOL. That picture of Clausen in the speedo.... I'm speechless. I have no speech.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by GMScud

A tip of the cap to Angry for keeping the mood light. LOL. That picture of Clausen in the speedo.... I'm speechless. I have no speech.

From a USC site to a U of Mich site....as I said before Photoshop in the wrong hands.

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...tml#post673101

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

McShay's no less a scout than Kiper, he just hasn't been around as long as Kiper.

Do you think the PFT thing on McShay is fair or pretty much BS?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Do you think the PFT thing on McShay is fair or pretty much BS?

Which part exactly?

And it's not true that Mayock is the only one with access to the college tapes.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Which part exactly?

And it's not true that Mayock is the only one with access to the college tapes.

These two statements: "Most people at my level feel he is a joke," a veteran NFL scout told us via e-mail.

"McShay does not have any good connections," the source opined. "Higher-ups in the league think he is an arrogant asshole. A know-it-all. And he really knows nothing.

Side-note: I would almost vote for a Dem in the fall if I could get access to those college tapes. That would be awesome to break down full-field game tape all day long.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

These two statements: "Most people at my level feel he is a joke," a veteran NFL scout told us via e-mail.

"McShay does not have any good connections," the source opined. "Higher-ups in the league think he is an arrogant asshole. A know-it-all. And he really knows nothing.

Side-note: I would almost vote for a Dem in the fall if I could get access to those college tapes. That would be awesome to break down full-field game tape all day long.

It's pretty bad ass to get see angles that the common television viewer never sees. And today I watched it in 3D!! Which actually wasn't as cool as I thought it would be.

I've never really had any problem with McShay (I personally think he's more into college football than pro football) but I can't say we've really interacted all that much. He's not a total ass like (I'm not really going to name names here) and he's not necessarily a go out of their way to chat with you good guy like Colin Cowherd (yeah that's right I said Cowher), Barry Melrose, or Jalen Rose. He's just McShay. I've never noticed him to be arrogant at all.

Does he have connections? At the college level, absolutely. At the pro level, yes but I'm sure they're not at the same level as Kiper.

McShay was not the only person to regard Snead highly going into last season. And he's not the only person to comment somewhat negatively on Clausen. Why he gets treated like he is the only one baffles me.

[warpaint]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It's pretty bad ass to get see angles that the common television viewer never sees. And today I watched it in 3D!! Which actually wasn't as cool as I thought it would be.

I've never really had any problem with McShay (I personally think he's more into college football than pro football) but I can't say we've really interacted all that much. He's not a total ass like (I'm not really going to name names here) and he's not necessarily a go out of their way to chat with you good guy like Colin Cowherd (yeah that's right I said Cowher), Barry Melrose, or Jalen Rose. He's just McShay. I've never noticed him to be arrogant at all.

Does he have connections? At the college level, absolutely. At the pro level, yes but I'm sure they're not at the same level as Kiper.

McShay was not the only person to regard Snead highly going into last season. And he's not the only person to comment somewhat negatively on Clausen. Why he gets treated like he is the only one baffles me.

I know its none of my business. What do you do for a living? I read some of the things you post, you are really in the know and you get alot of respect on your insider knowledge, Im just curious

[Lotus]

^ Smootsmack works at ESPN. He is the Grand Poohbah there. He spends his day wearing a large crown, sitting on a throne, and receiving tribute from Bill Belichick.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by warpaint

I know its none of my business. What do you do for a living? I read some of the things you post, you are really in the know and you get alot of respect on your insider knowledge, Im just curious

I'll just repost what I did a few weeks back (using some of my MBA buzzwords). I manage part of the day to day business strategy for a domestic (US) sports network. I coordinate, develop, and manage the planning and implementation of strategies that leverage our assets in order to optimize revenue generating streams and grow the business while increasing viewer awareness and consumption. (There's that MBA!!)

A lot of the stuff I'm currently working on actually is stuff that you haven't seen yet. No one has.

But anyway, a lot of my Redskins information come from having covered the Redskins locally (as in DC) many years ago. Most of my internal contacts are gone, actually just about all of them are, but some of them still keep in touch with what's going on. And fortunately, this new regime has given me a couple of new internal contacts. So while I get a fair amount of my info thanks to my current job, a lot of it is actually thanks to previous jobs...and other relations

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It's pretty bad ass to get see angles that the common television viewer never sees. And today I watched it in 3D!! Which actually wasn't as cool as I thought it would be.

So I shouldn't be rushing out to get that 3D TV anytime soon, LOL.

I've never really had any problem with McShay (I personally think he's more into college football than pro football) but I can't say we've really interacted all that much. He's not a total ass like (I'm not really going to name names here) and he's not necessarily a go out of their way to chat with you good guy like Colin Cowherd (yeah that's right I said Cowher), Barry Melrose, or Jalen Rose. He's just McShay. I've never noticed him to be arrogant at all.

Does he have connections? At the college level, absolutely. At the pro level, yes but I'm sure they're not at the same level as Kiper.

McShay was not the only person to regard Snead highly going into last season. And he's not the only person to comment somewhat negatively on Clausen. Why he gets treated like he is the only one baffles me.

Fair enough. In that case, it sounds like some scout may just have an ax to grind.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

So I shouldn't be rushing out to get that 3D TV anytime soon, LOL.

According to ESPN radio 4 or 5 years before it becomes relatively standard.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

So I shouldn't be rushing out to get that 3D TV anytime soon, LOL.

It's a different experience for sure. I think it takes some getting used to.

Oh, and I gotta give props to Stephania Bell, can't forget about her

[celts32]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

McShay's no less a scout than Kiper, he just hasn't been around as long as Kiper.

In my opinion that does make him a lesser scout since he lacks Mel's experience and about 30 years of connections. I am just a Mel guy and i don't like the way ESPN seems to be packaging this McShay as Mel's future replacement. I know you don't want to hear it but I would really like to see Mel move to NFL Network and team up with Mayock. Those two could do some great stuff together with all the extra time NFL network has to devote to the draft.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by celts32

In my opinion that does make him a lesser scout since he lacks Mel's experience and about 30 years of connections. I am just a Mel guy and i don't like the way ESPN seems to be packaging this McShay as Mel's future replacement. I know you don't want to hear it but I would really like to see Mel move to NFL Network and team up with Mayock. Those two could do some great stuff together with all the extra time NFL network has to devote to the draft.

Won't you just hate it when Mayock comes to ESPN (I'm only joking don't take this as some sort of inside scoop rumor)