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Old 05-06-2010, 01:16 PM   #1
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Hall of Fame linebacker Taylor accused of rape - Crime & courts- msnbc.com

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SUFFERN, N.Y. - Football Hall of Famer Lawrence Taylor was arrested Thursday in connection with a reported rape in the New York City suburbs, police said. The victim reportedly was a 15-year-old girl who was beaten during the attack.
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Ramapo Supervisor Christopher St. Lawrence told the Journal News that the victim was a 15-year-old runaway who was brought by a pimp to the hotel where Taylor was staying.
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"She was a runaway since March and there was a pimp involved," St. Lawrence told the Lower Hudson Valley newspaper. "She got punched in the face. We're not sure who did it." The police got involved after the girl texted her uncle as the pimp drove her down to the Bronx, St. Lawrence told the newspaper. The uncle called the New York City Police Department and officers met the pimp's car in the city, St. Lawrence said.

The police took statements from the girl and arrested the pimp.

Taylor's lawyer, Kenneth Gribetz, told the Journal News that he has not seen the charges or the details of accusations.
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Gribetz, a former Rockland district attorney, said he's confident Taylor will be released on bail later this afternoon and eventually exonerated.


"We firmly contend he is innocent of the charges and will be fully exonerated," Gribetz said.

Gribetz and his law partner, Deborah Lowenberg, met with Taylor at the Ramapo police lockup.
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SUFFERN, N.Y. - Pro Football Hall of Famer Lawrence Taylor was arrested Thursday in connection with the rape of a 16-year-old girl who police said was delivered to his suburban New York City hotel room against her will.
The former New York Giants linebacker was arrested early Thursday at a Holiday Inn in Suffern, said Christopher St. Lawrence, supervisor of the town of Ramapo. The victim was 16, one year below the legal age of consent in New York, St. Lawrence said.
An attorney for Taylor, Kenneth Gribetz, said he expected Taylor to be arraigned later Thursday. “We’re confident his innocence will be proven,” he said.
Another man, Rasheed Davis, 36, was arrested in the case on charges of unlawful imprisonment, assault and endangering the welfare of a child.
Police said the girl had been staying with Davis in the Bronx for a few weeks. He beat her up, drove her to the Holiday Inn and told her she had to have sex with Taylor, police said. When she refused, Davis handed her over to Taylor, who sexually assaulted her, they said. Taylor paid her $300, which she gave to Davis, police said.
Davis “struck the young girl with his fist, kicked her and brought her to the Holiday Inn against her will,” NYPD spokesman Paul Browne said.
On the way back from Suffern, the girl sent text messages to her uncle spelling out what had happened, Browne said. The uncle then went to the NYPD, he said.
There was no phone number listed at the address provided by police for Davis and it wasn’t clear if he had an attorney. His relationship with the girl was unclear.
The Bronx district attorney’s office refused to comment.
Ramapo Supervisor Christopher St. Lawrence told the Journal News that the victim was a runaway who was brought by a pimp to the hotel where Taylor was staying.
"She was a runaway since March and there was a pimp involved," St. Lawrence told the Lower Hudson Valley newspaper. "She got punched in the face. We're not sure who did it."
The police got involved after the girl texted her uncle as the pimp drove her down to the Bronx, St. Lawrence told the newspaper. The uncle called the New York City Police Department and officers met the pimp's car in the city, St. Lawrence said.
The police took statements from the girl and arrested the pimp.
Taylor was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1999 and competed in ABC’s “Dancing With the Stars” last year. He had a highly publicized struggle with drug addiction and has had multiple legal run-ins since retiring from football.
A quick, fierce and athletic linebacker who redefined his position, Taylor anchored the Giants’ defense and led New York to Super Bowls titles in 1987 and 1991. He was selected to the NFL’s 75th Anniversary All-Time Team.
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Since you seem confused or disturbed by my comment I shall enlighten.

Had the little tramp not ran away to be with said boyfriend (pimp) or thought the grass would be greener away from her family she kinda got what she deserved. I don't condone abuse at all, but had she stayed at home where she should have been, instead of running away from home, she most likely would not have been in this situation and protected....by her family.

Instead she must have thought screw this I'm out I don't have to listen to this, ran away, hooked up with a pimp (either she met him or was introduced to him through a friend), and put herself in this situation. Maybe if kids would take a moment to realize they are not as smart as they think and there are people who are out there willing to take advantage of them any way they can, she might not have been pimped out or abused.

I see it all the time. Kids running away cause they don't like what mommy and daddy are punishing them for. Mostly its bad grades and they aren't going to be told they can't speak or see their boyfriends/girlfriends. Unfortunatly there are a small % that hook up with the wrong people as in this case or hooking up with people through the internet.
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Since you seem confused or disturbed by my comment I shall enlighten.

Had the little tramp not ran away to be with said boyfriend (pimp) or thought the grass would be greener away from her family she kinda got what she deserved. I don't condone abuse at all, but had she stayed at home where she should have been, instead of running away from home, she most likely would not have been in this situation and protected....by her family.

Instead she must have thought screw this I'm out I don't have to listen to this, ran away, hooked up with a pimp (either she met him or was introduced to him through a friend), and put herself in this situation. Maybe if kids would take a moment to realize they are not as smart as they think and there are people who are out there willing to take advantage of them any way they can, she might not have been pimped out or abused.

I see it all the time. Kids running away cause they don't like what mommy and daddy are punishing them for. Mostly its bad grades and they aren't going to be told they can't speak or see their boyfriends/girlfriends. Unfortunatly there are a small % that hook up with the wrong people as in this case or hooking up with people through the internet.
I get what you're saying, but unless you know her family then who knows how she was better off.
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Seriously these athletes get more action than a catholit priest.
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This is ridiculous. A very bizzare case. I saw an episode of Law and order SVU very similar!!
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Look if he's guilty throw the book and lock him up.All I am saying is if this story is true ...it strikes me as odd that the girl only gets in touch with the uncle ..till after having sex with LT....on the way home,not in any of the weeks before ,not after getting beaten by her "Pimp",and if you were a girls pimp and had to force her to do this (crap)....would you let her have a cell phone?
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Look if he's guilty throw the book and lock him up.All I am saying is if this story is true ...it strikes me as odd that the girl only gets in touch with the uncle ..till after having sex with LT....on the way home,not in any of the weeks before ,not after getting beaten by her "Pimp",and if you were a girls pimp and had to force her to do this (crap)....would you let her have a cell phone?
Those are interesting points, I am just not sure what you are implying? That it was a setup? That nothing happened and they(the girl and guy) are trying to extort LT? What is the alternative that you might see to answer your questions.
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Those are interesting points, I am just not sure what you are implying? That it was a setup? That nothing happened and they(the girl and guy) are trying to extort LT? What is the alternative that you might see to answer your questions.

I AM not defending him....lets make this clear please.All I'm saying is this sounds a bit strange to me,remember the Dukes LX team .The story as is just doesn't sit right with me.Look at it like you didn't know who he was.
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I AM not defending him....lets make this clear please.All I'm saying is this sounds a bit strange to me,remember the Dukes LX team .The story as is just doesn't sit right with me.Look at it like you didn't know who he was.
I didn't think you were defending him, I just don't get how all the pieces that you pointed out fit together. I agree some parts seem strange. Of course, the police aren't gonna say everything. And, I, right or wrongly, assumed that she had been talking to the uncle prior and he was somehow associated with the "pimp". Doesn't say much of his being an uncle, but that's how I filled in the back story.
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Look if he's guilty throw the book and lock him up.All I am saying is if this story is true ...it strikes me as odd that the girl only gets in touch with the uncle ..till after having sex with LT....on the way home,not in any of the weeks before ,not after getting beaten by her "Pimp",and if you were a girls pimp and had to force her to do this (crap)....would you let her have a cell phone?
Apologize. Yours had more info. But I'm assuming your backing LT which I guess I am sorta also. Not sure what the hooker laws are up there in the town where it occured or NY in general.

Whats funnier is if it happened here in VA, the pimp would get punished worse for pimping out a juvenile, the juvenile might catch a charge of prostitution, and LT might catch a charge of contributing to a delinquency of a minor. Any adult having sex with a minor (someone under 18) 15-17 is simply contributing which is a misdemeanor unless she says he forced himself on her.
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Look if he's guilty throw the book and lock him up.All I am saying is if this story is true ...it strikes me as odd that the girl only gets in touch with the uncle ..till after having sex with LT....on the way home,not in any of the weeks before ,not after getting beaten by her "Pimp",and if you were a girls pimp and had to force her to do this (crap)....would you let her have a cell phone?
It sounds like the allegations of getting beat and being forced to have sex with LT happened pretty close together. I didn't get the impression that she was beaten and then several days passed before the LT incident.

If the allegations are indeed true, the biggest child in all of this is Lawrence Taylor. At 51 years old, you should be able to act like a responsible adult and know right from wrong. Sadly, Taylor's never shown that ability
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It sounds like the allegations of getting beat and being forced to have sex with LT happened pretty close together. I didn't get the impression that she was beaten and then several days passed before the LT incident.

If the allegations are indeed true, the biggest child in all of this is Lawrence Taylor. At 51 years old, you should be able to act like a responsible adult and know right from wrong. Sadly, Taylor's never shown that ability

As I said before I'm just going with the story as it is but it just seems really strange.......somethings just aren't making any sense.
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Look if he's guilty throw the book and lock him up.All I am saying is if this story is true ...it strikes me as odd that the girl only gets in touch with the uncle ..till after having sex with LT....on the way home,not in any of the weeks before ,not after getting beaten by her "Pimp",and if you were a girls pimp and had to force her to do this (crap)....would you let her have a cell phone?
probably wouldn't let her have the phone, but who's to say it's a smart guy? I mean he's beating up a 16 year old girl and forcing her on guys...

she prob didn't get in touch with the uncle beforehand because of being a runaway, didn't want to get caught.. who knows

no need to defend the guy so staunchly at this point
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