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Old 05-13-2010, 02:07 PM   #1
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Re: how and why the Raiders will make the playoffs

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You are right IF you have a coach that is your leader, or vocal then you don't HAVE to be but why can't you lead your team. I'm going to try my best to keep this on topic as it relates to the Raiders. Now, you wish that Shanny would've kept JC but he didn't. Do you know why JC ended up in Oakland ? Because the tape doesn't lie. Period, Point, Blank. The man doesn't quite exude Franchise guy. It isn't about the line or the receivers it's the tape on him. His slow decision making, his reluctance to learn and call his line protections, his reluctance to take charge of the offense. That is why. I can't stand how we as Redskins fans always say well if we have a line then we can have anyone back there. It is simply not true.

As a QB you have to have something uncanny about you that get's you over that hump. People say that Rothlesberger is shit but he makes a rack of money and do you know why ? Because when the game is on the line you know that you know that you have a chance. Until JC can find that IT Factor Fairyand show the higher ups that he gives you that he will be a second tier QB. For all the "executives" and "unnamed sources" that say how good he is NO ONE WANTED HIM. Let me repeat,.... NO ONE WANTED HIM. It wasn't the "horrible line that he had", it wasn't the "running back that has lost it", or the "Wide Receivers that can't get it done",.. it was him. The QB that doesn't get the ball out fast enough, or the QB that doesn't have one bit of pocket presence, and who is clearly missing that IT factor.

As I said before, if he gets that then he can be more that a QB with pretty good stats once the game is over but really didn't do much for you.

If anyone would like to argue JC's lack of leadership then as I said before, why is it that Donovan brought what was NEEDED so badly ? Remember the players said this, not just me. Once he gets all of that down then IF he wins the job in Oakland then they might be able to hold down one of the top spots in the AFC. Til then, enjoy your 8-8 ceiling Oakland.
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Old 05-13-2010, 02:27 PM   #2
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I think you'd be excellent on secondary station talk radio someday. You fit all the qualifications:
  • Love to hear yourself talk
  • Can fill up many hours without much substance
  • Can tie any concept back into a single, unrelated hot button topic
  • Notoriously prone to ridiculous unfalsifiable assertions
  • Even those who want nothing to do with you can't seem to ignore you
  • Ability to fit facts to your arguments eliminates the need to fit your arguments to the facts
And: it pays pretty well. So you've got it made.
Well I guess I'd be hated as well. Disagree as you may. I see his play one way, you see it another. IF he does all of those things then I think that he can be a very good Qb in this league, you may feel that he has it down already. Prove me wrong and I'll admit that I am. You can't. That's all that it is. The proof is in the pudding GTripp. He is pretty good, but pretty good isn't going to cut it if he wants to excell. He has young receivers which was his problem here, won't have the best O-Line in the league which was his problem here, and a fan base that has a short fuse which was a problem here. And best believe if he starts they will be firing their Offensive Coordinator within 2 years. You tell me how he can take the game that he had here, insert that in Oakland with the team, coaching staff, Front Office, Owner, whatever disadvantages that he had here that may be similar to what he "dealt with" here and have a higher ceiling than 8-8.

And as sarcastic as you may have been, I would love to be on the radio, I'd be able to spread my version of the truth to the masses !

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Old 05-13-2010, 06:54 PM   #3
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You are right IF you have a coach that is your leader, or vocal then you don't HAVE to be but why can't you lead your team. I'm going to try my best to keep this on topic as it relates to the Raiders. Now, you wish that Shanny would've kept JC but he didn't. Do you know why JC ended up in Oakland ? Because the tape doesn't lie. Period, Point, Blank. The man doesn't quite exude Franchise guy. It isn't about the line or the receivers it's the tape on him. His slow decision making, his reluctance to learn and call his line protections, his reluctance to take charge of the offense. That is why. I can't stand how we as Redskins fans always say well if we have a line then we can have anyone back there. It is simply not true.

As a QB you have to have something uncanny about you that get's you over that hump. People say that Rothlesberger is shit but he makes a rack of money and do you know why ? Because when the game is on the line you know that you know that you have a chance. Until JC can find that IT Factor Fairyand show the higher ups that he gives you that he will be a second tier QB. For all the "executives" and "unnamed sources" that say how good he is NO ONE WANTED HIM. Let me repeat,.... NO ONE WANTED HIM. It wasn't the "horrible line that he had", it wasn't the "running back that has lost it", or the "Wide Receivers that can't get it done",.. it was him. The QB that doesn't get the ball out fast enough, or the QB that doesn't have one bit of pocket presence, and who is clearly missing that IT factor.

As I said before, if he gets that then he can be more that a QB with pretty good stats once the game is over but really didn't do much for you.

If anyone would like to argue JC's lack of leadership then as I said before, why is it that Donovan brought what was NEEDED so badly ? Remember the players said this, not just me. Once he gets all of that down then IF he wins the job in Oakland then they might be able to hold down one of the top spots in the AFC. Til then, enjoy your 8-8 ceiling Oakland.
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Old 05-13-2010, 10:13 AM   #4
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Leaders come in different shapes and sizes. His style may fit in well out there, you don't know.
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Old 05-13-2010, 10:25 AM   #5
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I like to say Rainy is one of the better members we have gotten in quit some time.

Also and I have said this before if you don't like the subject don't click on the thread. It clearly says Raiders in the title, it is not like Rainy titled it McNabb out for the season.
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Old 05-13-2010, 10:27 AM   #6
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I like to say Rainy is one of the better members we have gotten in quit some time.
Very refreshing
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thanks for the lovefest, guys. but you should know that in real life i'm actually really a dick.
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Old 05-13-2010, 11:05 AM   #8
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thanks for the lovefest, guys. but you should know that in real life i'm actually really a dick.
Nice...

Good read, BTW, but the raiders remind me of the NY Knights in The Natural. Meddling, semi-psychotic owner, crappy GM, and an onery fat coach. Losing is a disease, and they've got a bad case of it. It's going to take a Roy Hobbs like miracle maker to drag them out of the basement, and god love JC, but he's no Roy Hobbs.
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thanks for the lovefest, guys. but you should know that in real life i'm actually really a dick.
Maybe you and Schneed are like...opposite soul mates?
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Maybe you and Schneed are like...opposite soul mates?

Hmmm....I was going to say TTE.
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thanks for the lovefest, guys. but you should know that in real life i'm actually really a dick.


This is definitely sig worthy. LOL.
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Really enjoyed your article on the Good News-Bad News-Mcnabb. I agree with alot of the assessments for the most part.

Not ready for the whole thing....but I find the subject matter of your articles interesting and informative. :thumb:
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wow, this thread went from mocked and locked to 4 pages and 600+ views. it's like Vince Young.
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wow, this thread went from mocked and locked to 4 pages and 600+ views. it's like Vince Young.
you realize you posted this on the third (3rd) page, just sayin
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