Devin Thomas' inconsistency continues

[Redskin Jim]

Originally Posted by theJBexperience

Sorry to waste everyone's time. I'll see you in September.

I apologize if I came across rudely. I was referring to JR's lack of content in his article, not your passing it on in this thread.
Thanks for giving us something to talk about. HTTR

[ethat001]

Originally Posted by Redskin Jim

I apologize if I came across rudely. I was referring to JR's lack of content in his article, not your passing it on in this thread.
Thanks for giving us something to talk about. HTTR

Exactly that. We'll complain each day about the lack of substance in these threads.. But - let's face it, we're stretching a season that is 5-6 months long to 12 months, 365 days a year. If no one cared about this article, there wouldn't be a page full of responses about it. To quote Jim Redskin - "Thanks for giving us something to talk about."

That being said, the article is a piece of crap. <grin> New offense, new patterns, give the guy until preseason to get it before trashing him.

[Lotus]

If he is consistently inconsistent, is that a step forward?

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by theJBexperience

Sorry to waste everyone's time. I'll see you in September.

Now, now thats just silly. Fat Al is coming to town in mere days we have him to talk about again, it should be good this time COACH working the shit outta fat boy. Now that would be gross misconduct to miss out on that action.


Unless he doesn't show then we will have even more to talk about.....

[LandrySlice]

I wanna hear more about Silverback!

[30gut]

Originally Posted by theJBexperience

Redskins Insider - Offense tries to match defense's progress

Not good. I hope McNabb or someone can get in Thomas' ear. I can't believe I'm considering this, but maybe, we should sign TO.

I think its way too early to get down on the receivers, which seems like the implication of the piece.

And one small pet peeve, how the heck does Jason Reid know what the Shanahan's are looking for in terms of consistency during OTA's?

Originally Posted by Jason Reid

he hasn't displayed the type of play-after-play consistency the Shanahans like to see from that position.

Anyway, we all share your concern over the WR position.

Imo, its the biggest question mark heading into the season.
Can one of our young receivers step up?
The departure of ARE leaves at least 50 catches to split-up.

Will there be 1 or 2 feature receivers, or will there be more of a production by committee approach?

Personally, i think that Devin Thomas could be very successful running the same type of stuff that DeSean Jackson ran in Philly.

And take over some of Tana's targets on screens, drags, fly patterns and hitches nothing tough that requires great hands or sharp patterns or reading the defense.

If you give Thomas a package of plays that are that emphasize the skill he showed at Michigan St. i think he could blossomas deep threat/playmaker.

[CRedskinsRule]

So how do our receivers rank in terms of pure speed? Is Moss the fastest? It never seemed to me like any one on our team had breakaway speed, so I just wondered where all our receivers stack up, both on the team, and against other receivers in the league.

[vallin21]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

So how do our receivers rank in terms of pure speed? Is Moss the fastest? It never seemed to me like any one on our team had breakaway speed, so I just wondered where all our receivers stack up, both on the team, and against other receivers in the league.

I'd say Moss is still the fastest WR, followed by Banks (assuming he makes the team), Galloway (still think he has some speed left) T. Austin, Thomas, and Kelly. That should rank in the top 15, assuming we keep 6 WRs (doubt it). I'd bet to think we have the fastest WR's overall in the NFC East team, but speed alone almost never wins games.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by vallin21

I'd say Moss is still the fastest WR, followed by Banks (assuming he makes the team), Galloway (still think he has some speed left) T. Austin, Thomas, and Kelly. That should rank in the top 15, assuming we keep 6 WRs (doubt it). I'd bet to think we have the fastest WR's overall in the NFC East team, but speed alone almost never wins games.

Funny at this point I would have said Banks, Austin, Moss, Thomas, Wade and Galloway might be tied, and last Kelly. I think Moss has slowed a bit due to age and groin pulls. lol.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by vallin21

I'd say Moss is still the fastest WR, followed by Banks (assuming he makes the team), Galloway (still think he has some speed left) T. Austin, Thomas, and Kelly. That should rank in the top 15, assuming we keep 6 WRs (doubt it). I'd bet to think we have the fastest WR's overall in the NFC East team, but speed alone almost never wins games.

I don't think speed alone wins games, I just wasn't sure where our receivers rank speed wise. I am hoping we see more ability to create separation, from any of our receivers. I don't really care who steps up, but it would be nice to see a competent passing game for once.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

So how do our receivers rank in terms of pure speed? Is Moss the fastest? It never seemed to me like any one on our team had breakaway speed, so I just wondered where all our receivers stack up, both on the team, and against other receivers in the league.

My guess from the current fastest in order

Brandon Banks-the kid is a smurf but can flat out fly-4.37 official/fast time 4.30Brandon Banks*|*Kansas State,*WR*:*2010 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile
Devin Thomas-4.40 official /fast time 4.32 just for reference DeSean Jackson ran a 4.35 official
*Devin Thomas*|*Michigan State,*WR*:*2008 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile
Santana Moss-4.31 official (2001)
NFL Draft Scout Rankings, From Prep to Pro Coverage for Pros by Pros - Powered by the Sports Xchange
Joey Galloway-anywhere from 4.20-4.38 can't find official time but in his prime the dude had wheels
NFL Draft Scout Rankings, From Prep to Pro Coverage for Pros by Pros - Powered by the Sports Xchange
Terrence Austin-4.52 official/4.42 fast time
Terrence Austin*|*UCLA,*WR*:*2010 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile
Shay Hodge-4.62 official/4.50 fast time
Shay Hodge*|*Mississippi,*WR*:*2010 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile

can't find Anthony Armstrong's 40

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by 30gut

My guess from the current fastest in order

Brandon Banks-the kid is a smurf but can flat out fly-4.37 official/fast time 4.30Brandon Banks*|*Kansas State,*WR*:*2010 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile
Devin Thomas-4.40 official /fast time 4.32 just for reference DeSean Jackson ran a 4.35 official
*Devin Thomas*|*Michigan State,*WR*:*2008 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile
Santana Moss-4.31 official (2001)
NFL Draft Scout Rankings, From Prep to Pro Coverage for Pros by Pros - Powered by the Sports Xchange
Joey Galloway-anywhere from 4.20-4.38 can't find official time but in his prime the dude had wheels
NFL Draft Scout Rankings, From Prep to Pro Coverage for Pros by Pros - Powered by the Sports Xchange
Terrence Austin-4.52 official/4.42 fast time
Terrence Austin*|*UCLA,*WR*:*2010 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile
Shay Hodge-4.62 official/4.50 fast time
Shay Hodge*|*Mississippi,*WR*:*2010 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile

can't find Anthony Armstrong's 40

Good job, but I'd wonder how accurate this is. What I mean is I presume this is from all their draft testing and I would guess Moss can't run that fast anymore due to him being a bit older and most likely heavier. Thomas might be in the same boat since he has put on a lot of muscle. I could be wrong.

[SBXVII]

TheJBexperience; I with you. In past yrs I would have said no to ever signing T.O. Although his Philli tantrum was not 10 yrs ago, I do feel he's somewhat removed from that incident but everyone loves to bring it up like he's a cancer. He is the best WR on the market at this point to which we would not have to trade or throw draft picks at to get. At this point I too would be thinking about bringing him in cause he would need time to learn the scheme and play calls.

mlmpetert; I agree with you also there's only so much you can do when injured especially with a hammy. Which brings me back to why the "F" do are players seem to always get hammies? Moss is our notorious and his seems to re-occure every yr. I hope thats not the case for Thomas. I Moss is the Hammy/Groin pull player of the team.

Warpaint; I some how doubt Kelly steps up also. I would put more money on his knees swelling again this yr and he not being able to practice .... again vs. the light switch all of a sudden switching on.

You guys are funny.... excuses, excuses, excuses.... their like A-holes and everyone has one. How about we stop making up the excuses for Thomas and Kelly at this point and admit they might not be what we expected them to be.

[MTK]

It's got nothing to do with excuses, these are WRs entering their 3rd seasons. It typically takes 2-3 seasons for WRs to fully blossom. How about we try to have a little patience considering we're not even into August yet?

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

It's got nothing to do with excuses, these are WRs entering their 3rd seasons. It typically takes 2-3 seasons for WRs to fully blossom. How about we try to have a little patience considering we're not even into August yet?

I am. I'm not throwing them out with the bath water just yet. I'm just tired of the "Oh don't worry they will be our #1 and #2", "You'll see they are gunna step up any day now", "this is their 3rd yr and that means they are gunna bust out" mentality. All I'm hoping for is that the coaching staff has made contingiency plans for if Thomas and Kelly don't step up, and Galloway and Wade are not my ideas of contingiency plans. I truly hope everyone is at some point telling me "I told you so."