Football Outsiders: Redskins dead last in under-25 talent

[tryfuhl]

personally I'd be looking at 27 years old and younger.. give guys 5 years in the league

given how long the average player lasts maybe they have a reason for 25.. or maybe it's just a prettier number.. just remember that average is brought down by injuries and guys who were signed but never made an active roster and the like

looking at some guys like Golston who's a good depth guy that might start a bit, he's only 4 years into the league.. Lorenzo Alexander is only 3 years in

you've got Hall at 26 right now (though he's been in the league for 6 years), a can he turn it around guy in Carriker with 3 years exp at barely 26, their number 5 prospect for the year Tryon at barely 26, left to be determined Kareem Moore nearing 26, Blades who they mentioned nearing 26, if they threw in Blades they could've thrown in 25 year old Horton and an even younger Jarmon (perhaps my mentioning of the last two has more to do with how little H.B. Blades did, not that he had a lot of chances), and I think that calling Thomas a flop is a bit premature.. Landry I understand it more but not fully.. yet...

so we may not have youth superstars, but from an insider view we do have a bit of talent or at the least potential

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

personally I'd be looking at 27 years old and younger.. give guys 5 years in the league

given how long the average player lasts maybe they have a reason for 25.. or maybe it's just a prettier number.. just remember that average is brought down by injuries and guys who were signed but never made an active roster and the like

looking at some guys like Golston who's a good depth guy that might start a bit, he's only 4 years into the league.. Lorenzo Alexander is only 3 years in

you've got Hall at 26 right now (though he's been in the league for 6 years), a can he turn it around guy in Carriker with 3 years exp at barely 26, their number 5 prospect for the year Tryon at barely 26, left to be determined Kareem Moore nearing 26, Blades who they mentioned nearing 26, if they threw in Blades they could've thrown in 25 year old Horton and an even younger Jarmon (perhaps my mentioning of the last two has more to do with how little H.B. Blades did, not that he had a lot of chances), and I think that calling Thomas a flop is a bit premature.. Landry I understand it more but not fully.. yet...

so we may not have youth superstars, but from an insider view we do have a bit of talent or at the least potential

I agree wholeheartedly. I understand the concerns about age, but too much youth and your team is untested. Overall, an average age stat seems really meaningless to me.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I agree wholeheartedly. I understand the concerns about age, but too much youth and your team is untested. Overall, an average age stat seems really meaningless to me.

Indeed.. I mean you have the Pack which were a pretty young team a couple of years ago and they're coming into contention now but I don't know the exact moves which have enabled this. It's something that I'd have to follow a bit more closely.

[GMScud]

I'd be interested to hear GTripp's thoughts on this. There was so much discussion on FBO predicting the Skins to make the playoffs. Now they're trashing our "youth." Hmmmm.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I'd be interested to hear GTripp's thoughts on this. There was so much discussion on FBO predicting the Skins to make the playoffs. Now they're trashing our "youth." Hmmmm.

Justin Tryon is taking us to the big game!

Honestly though what they're talking about here I think it a bit of an aside from what GTripp typically follows from them. By math they expect us to hit the SB, though last year they had us winning.. 7 games I think? And by just judging organizational standings on 25 and under youth I don't think that they're screaming.. YOU CAN'T DO IT!

Honestly I'm not really sure WHAT they're trying to prove with this article aside from potential to have the current crew be the same crew later on and perhaps successful along with it.

It's certainly not a formula for winning in the next year or two for the most part, looks more like an evaluation of how well prospects have evolved and how well they were drafted/acquired.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I'd be interested to hear GTripp's thoughts on this. There was so much discussion on FBO predicting the Skins to make the playoffs. Now they're trashing our "youth." Hmmmm.

I have plenty of thoughts on this, but since I'd just be parroting myself from yesterday, this is easier for me:

Washington Ranks 32nd in the NFL in Football Outsiders' "Under 25" Organizational Talent

The crux of the argument is that even the Redskins' cheap developmental talent is either in it's prime or on the downside of their careers. The cost-structure of this team is very, very good. There are no dead weight contracts anymore, and a lot of our very best contributors are making very little money.

But even those players (Lorenzo Alexander, Justin Tryon, Chris Wilson, Carlos Rogers, Rocky McIntosh, Derrick Dockery) are older than you'd think and most are due gigantic raises or will walk in free agency. Either way, the production from that group isn't sustainable over a two to three year period (think about Lemar Marshall or Joe Saleve'a). The type of player whose declines from our 2005 playoff year derailed our 2006 season are the real motor of the 2010 team. So, we have precious few draft picks, and will have to replace both our contributors and our non-contributors over the next few years.

Free agency will be a viable resource for us in the future because we don't have many of Vinnys terrible contract dollars outstanding. We're just unlikely to get a significant contribution from our recent or impending drafts.