2010 NFL Preseason

[skinsfaninok]

I don't see Indy returning the the SB. In fact I think New England is the favorite in the AFC. Baltimore has way to many injuries and a old defense. I'm not buying the Jets yet simply because I don't trust Sanchez.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I don't see Indy returning the the SB. In fact I think New England is the favorite in the AFC. Baltimore has way to many injuries and a old defense. I'm not buying the Jets yet simply because I don't trust Sanchez.

I think it's going to revert back to the way things were a few years ago, and it will be Colts/Pats. Brady's knee injury is a full two years behind him now, and they've gotten younger in some areas including key spots on D. If I had to pick my 6 AFC playoff teams right now, I'd say Chargers, Pats, Colts, and Bengals, with the wildcards to be claimed by two of these three teams: Ravens, Jets, Texans.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I don't see Indy returning the the SB. In fact I think New England is the favorite in the AFC. Baltimore has way to many injuries and a old defense. I'm not buying the Jets yet simply because I don't trust Sanchez.

Personally, I don't think Sanchez will be their biggest problem this season. This team didn't get much better, IMO. They definitely pulled a 2000 Skins type of offseason. I don't like losing Thomas Jones for LT, I don't like the Taylor signing, I don't like the Santonio trade very much and I hate the Cromartie trade. I did, however, like their draft.

I, personally, believe this team took a step backwards in the offseason and it becomes a monster step backward if they don't get Revis in.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by jdlea

Personally, I don't think Sanchez will be their biggest problem this season. This team didn't get much better, IMO. They definitely pulled a 2000 Skins type of offseason. I don't like losing Thomas Jones for LT, I don't like the Taylor signing, I don't like the Santonio trade very much and I hate the Cromartie trade. I did, however, like their draft.

I, personally, believe this team took a step backwards in the offseason and it becomes a monster step backward if they don't get Revis in.

Given that they have used our tried-and-not-true method of grabbing superstars in order to buy a championship, if they go anywhere this year I will be pissed. If it doesn't work for us then it shouldn't work for them.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Given that they have used our tried-and-not-true method of grabbing superstars in order to buy a championship, if they go anywhere this year I will be pissed. If it doesn't work for us then it shouldn't work for them.

The guys they picked up are more scheme fits than just a splurge. Holmes still has many years in front of him and he showed why he's a starter and not a backup. Jason Taylor thrives in the 3-4, and the Jets run a 3-4. Braylon Edwards apparently just needed a change of scenery and LT is their pass catching RB third down back.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

The guys they picked up are more scheme fits than just a splurge. Holmes still has many years in front of him and he showed why he's a starter and not a backup. Jason Taylor thrives in the 3-4, and the Jets run a 3-4. Braylon Edwards apparently just needed a change of scenery and LT is their pass catching RB third down back.

I think they also benefit from the fact that unlike the Skins of years past the Jets have not ignored their O-line. They established a good young unit there that gives them the luxury of being able to splurge in other areas.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

I think they also benefit from the fact that unlike the Skins of years past the Jets have not ignored their O-line. They established a good young unit there that gives them the luxury of being able to splurge in other areas.

That is a definate plus that puts what they have done in the offseason at a signifigant advantage over what we had done in all of our previous OffSeason Championship runs.

Of course this year, I still put us at the top of the offseason moves department again, but unlike years past our focus was Oline and QB. Which will provide us with a better chance of actually winning then previous years where we added a couple of pieces of high priced and overevaluated defensive players.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

The guys they picked up are more scheme fits than just a splurge. Holmes still has many years in front of him and he showed why he's a starter and not a backup. Jason Taylor thrives in the 3-4, and the Jets run a 3-4. Braylon Edwards apparently just needed a change of scenery and LT is their pass catching RB third down back.

Have to agree with Sir Cp on this one Lotus. The Jets acquired guys that were needed and fit their plans to a T. Also the guys aren't wheeze kids. Notice how I said plans. In 2000 I am not too sure DS had a plan and it showed. Deion was a waste of space for us. Bruce Smith did contribute some. Andre Reed had only a handful of catches for us with only one TD. Larry Centers performed very well for us and Adrian Murrell had some decent moments, but not that many. DS just threw a ton of money at aging Probowlers and thought they could get him back to the divisionals or better.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Have to agree with Sir Cp on this one Lotus. The Jets acquired guys that were needed and fit their plans to a T. Also the guys aren't wheeze kids. Notice how I said plans. In 2000 I am not too sure DS had a plan and it showed. Deion was a waste of space for us. Bruce Smith did contribute some. Andre Reed had only a handful of catches for us with only one TD. Larry Centers performed very well for us and Adrian Murrell had some decent moments, but not that many. DS just threw a ton of money at aging Probowlers and thought they could get him back to the divisionals or better.

How are Jason Taylor and LT not aging Pro Bowlers?

Maybe you guys are right. We'll see.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Lotus

How are Jason Taylor and LT not aging Pro Bowlers?

Maybe you guys are right. We'll see.

But are scheme fits and not signed to ridiculously long contract lengths. Taylor is a 3-4 LBer and nothing else. Lucky for the Jets, the run a 3-4. Not only that, it was only a contract in which "Taylor received a two-year, $13 million deal...
Realistically, however, it's a one-year contract with heavy incentives and guarantees Taylor $2.5 million with a maximum of $3.75 million, the source said." . Same thing for LT. Two year deal for 5.1 mil up with a max 5.6 mil. They needed a catching back, so why not LT?

Deion got a seven year deal worth 56 million.
Bruce Smith got a FIVE year deal worth 23 million.

Not only that, LT and JT are both hungry for a championship.

So, I think it's pretty clear that DS was just throwing money blindly in such a manner that even Madden players would not have done while the Jets knew what they were doing when they signed old vets. You can't have a team full of aging vets, but you need enough of them to play a supplemental role in guiding the young guys and providing consistent play to hold the fort. I have Madden 2002, and some FA classes are outright poor and if there are any highly rated players, they're old and prone to retire at any moment.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by Lotus

How are Jason Taylor and LT not aging Pro Bowlers?

Maybe you guys are right. We'll see.

Cp has it right. Scheme fits that didn't cost a bundle. Shoot we were paying for Deion through Spurrier and the guy only had like 2-3 INTs for us his entire time here. Andre Reed even cost a bundle compared to what we got out of him. We could have easily drafted or signed an undrafted CB and another WR for less and we would have gotten more production out of them. That being said, it still might not work with the Jets and you will be right. But I think the Jets had a plan in acquiring these guys while DS more or less shot from the hip. His spending spree cost us half a decade of salary cap hell.