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IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want?

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View Poll Results: What QB Do You Want at #10?
Jake Locker 44 34.38%
Ryan Mallett 18 14.06%
Cam Newton 23 17.97%
Other (who?) 19 14.84%
Blaine Gabbert 24 18.75%
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Old 01-17-2011, 10:51 PM   #11
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Re: IF We Take A QB At #10...Who Do You Want?

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The point was that you made a argument based around Locker's dropped passes. It's not the first time I've heard the argument; Todd McShay (for example) made the same one before he changed his opinion on Locker. "He's accurate, but the numbers don't show it. You'll just have to trust me on this one." It's not a unique or insane argument, it's just weak.
Yes, that was part of my point.
Your post seems to look at Locker only from a statistical standpoint.
(I haven't read the entire thread only started reading around your post)
My point was that without context the stats aren't very meaningful.
Comp % like most stats in football are very much affected by the team on which the QB plays.
And i don't think you'll disagree that Washington is a team w/ limited talent on offense other then Locker.
E.g. Washington hasn't had an NFL caliber OL or WR in 5 years.

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There is a standard expectation for ability for a college quarterback who wants to be drafted in 2011, and Locker falls well short of that standard. That's what his whole body of work says.
Why? Because of some statistical model?
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I am far less interested in trying to cross my eyes while watching said film to see a passer with requisite NFL accuracy. Which apparently is something that Bill Walsh didn't value.
Your a touchy fella aren't you?
Why would you have to cross your eyes?
If you're refering to a statistical measure of accuracy you would be right Walsh didn't list that in the criteria he does consider actually accuracy though its a cross between touch and throwing a complete inventory of passes.
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I'm perfectly willing to give you that Locker had five dropped passes in the USC game against him if you're willing to give me the fact that, in the course of a college career, that doesn't change much (he won the game after all).
You don't have to 'give' me the drops b/c they actually happened.
You seem to imply that b/c he won the game that the drops didn't have an effect on the outcome.
But, if you can't accept that drops have an effect on the game then we're probably having a pointless conversation.


Just out of curiosity how many Washington Huskies games have you watched?
B/c if you've seen more then the Bowl game when Nebraska's DBs owned Washington's DBs you'll see that Locker is more accurate then his stats suggest.
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