2011 Draft Thread Round 1

[Brody81]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Who says you have to have a QB first? You can have a great QB and shit lines and position players and not be good. You have to have both to be elite. It will come. Calm down. We have too many holes to fill. Enjoy getting a great defensive player on a defensive that was terrible last year. No one likes a Negative Nancy.

How many years did we have a great defense, and we still sucked? Why? No offense...No QB..

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Brody81

How many years did we have a great defense, and we still sucked? Why? No offense...No QB..

good point

[Swarley]

Originally Posted by Brody81

How many years did we have a great defense, and we still sucked? Why? No offense...No QB..

lol chill out man. The draft isn't over!

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Brody81

How many years did we have a great defense, and we still sucked? Why? No offense...No QB..

Because we switched to 3-4, creating more needs.

[Brody81]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Because we switched to 3-4, creating more needs.

So we were superbowl contenders with th 4-3 defense?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Brody81

So we were superbowl contenders with th 4-3 defense?

No we weren't, just saying that the change caused need.



Can teams STOP giving the Patriots F'ING first round picks!!!!! UGH!!!

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

No we weren't, just saying that the change caused need.



Can teams STOP giving the Patriots F'ING first round picks!!!!! UGH!!!

LMAO. So true

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Brody81

How many years did we have a great defense, and we still sucked? Why? No offense...No QB..

When did I say you can win with just a defense? I SAID, you have to have BOTH to be elite. I simply stated it doesn't matter what order IMO. You right, we couldn't win without a QB. But you also aren't going to win without a line, position players, and a defense. Haven't you noticed that really good defense teams make it deep in the playoffs a lot?

[Brody81]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

When did I say you can win with just a defense? I SAID, you have to have BOTH to be elite. I simply stated it doesn't matter what order IMO. You right, we couldn't win without a QB. But you also aren't going to win without a line, position players, and a defense. Haven't you noticed that really good defense teams make it deep in the playoffs a lot?

Teams drafting 20-32 have franchise Qb's... why are they drafting in the later first round? Because they are good teams w/ franchise QB..

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Brody81

Teams drafting 20-32 have franchise Qb's... why are they drafting in the later first round? Because they are good teams w/ franchise QB..

Well tell me how it is most franchise QB's aren't picked in the bottom half of the 1st and entire 2nd round? Because elite QB's go early. Top 10 picks. We didn't have a shot at that this year. So we can easily fill one of the tons of other needs we had. You think Minnesota did themselves a favor reaching for Ponder at 12? Nope. You and I are comparing apples and oranges my friend.

[Brody81]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Well tell me how it is most franchise QB's aren't picked in the bottom half of the 1st and entire 2nd round? Because elite QB's go early. Top 10 picks. We didn't have a shot at that this year. So we can easily fill one of the tons of other needs we had. You think Minnesota did themselves a favor reaching for Ponder at 12? Nope. You and I are comparing apples and oranges my friend.

Dude, all i'm saying is we had a great defense for many years, and it didn't get us anywhere.. I'm all for drafting offensive and defensive lineman. I have been screaming for the last 5 years about drafting offensive lineman, but when you have a chance to draft a possible franchise QB, I would think its worth the risk. It not like they where reaching for a pick. Two month's ago he was projected going #1 overall.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Brody81

Dude, all i'm saying is we had a great defense for many years, and it didn't get us anywhere.. I'm all for drafting offensive and defensive lineman. I have been screaming for the last 5 years about drafting offensive lineman, but when you have a chance to draft a possible franchise QB, I would think its worth the risk. It not like they where reaching for a pick. Two month's ago he was projected going #1 overall.

Well that is the difference between you and me. You see him as a franchise QB. I do not. And 15 other teams that picked before the Redskins agree with me.