Question about 2000-2001 QB Situation here

[MTK]

Brad Johnson was coming off a Pro Bowl season in '99 and was due a contract extension.

Instead, Danny brings in George which was a clear slap in the face to BJ, and rumors were he strongly suggested behind the scenes that he wanted JG to start over BJ. Norv being the pushover he was really had no choice.

A year later Johnson was outta here, and Marty quickly disposed of George after a disastrous 37-0 drubbing to the Packers in week 2 in 2001.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Brad Johnson was coming off a Pro Bowl season in '99 and was due a contract extension.

Instead, Danny brings in George which was a clear slap in the face to BJ, and rumors were he strongly suggested behind the scenes that he wanted JG to start over BJ. Norv being the pushover he was really had no choice.

A year later Johnson was outta here, and Marty quickly disposed of George after a disastrous 37-0 drubbing to the Packers in week 2 in 2001.

Don't forget that Johnson went straight to Tampa Bay and promptly won a Super Bowl. Granted that team was more defense than offense, but still.

McNabb and George don't really compare in my mind. George had never done anything meaningful when we brought him in, McNabb on the other hand has a bevy of accomplishments/solid stats as an NFL starter.

Everyone likes to talk about Brandon Llyod, Arch Deluxe, Deion, Bruce Smith, etc when they talk about Snyder's big failures. I think the combination of bringing in George while simultaneously turning a cold shoulder to Brad Johnson was possibly the little man's biggest personnel fail. Johnson wasn't going to be a franchise man for a decade, but he could have stuck around for 3-5 more years for us and been very solid. Better than anything else we've had at QB during Danny's tenure.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Don't forget that Johnson went straight to Tampa Bay and promptly won a Super Bowl. Granted that team was more defense than offense, but still.

McNabb and George don't really compare in my mind. George had never done anything meaningful when we brought him in, McNabb on the other hand has a bevy of accomplishments/solid stats as an NFL starter.

Everyone likes to talk about Brandon Llyod, Arch Deluxe, Deion, Bruce Smith, etc when they talk about Snyder's big failures. I think the combination of bringing in George while simultaneously turning a cold shoulder to Brad Johnson was possibly the little man's biggest personnel fail. Johnson wasn't going to be a franchise man for a decade, but he could have stuck around for 3-5 more years for us and been very solid. Better than anything else we've had at QB during Danny's tenure.

Imagine if he stuck with Marty and Brad how much better we would have been.

We as fans look at those years from a win/loss prospective but I bet if you looked at those years and the buzz that was create with those teams from a dollar sign prospective they were winning seasons in Danny's eyes.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Everyone likes to talk about Brandon Llyod, Arch Deluxe, Deion, Bruce Smith, etc when they talk about Snyder's big failures. I

I still think the Arch Deluxe was the biggest fail (behind Haynesworthless). To tell Clark you were done over paying players, and turn around and sign Archuletta to that mega contract was the icing on the cake. Clark wanted peanuts to resign with us. I agree with you that the George move was and has been a horrible move in our history.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I still think the Arch Deluxe was the biggest fail (behind Haynesworthless). To tell Clark you were done over paying players, and turn around and sign Archuletta to that mega contract was the icing on the cake. Clark wanted peanuts to resign with us. I agree with you that the George move was and has been a horrible move in our history.

I think Archuleta is the biggest fail. I'm sure his contract doesn't compare to AH, but at least AH had good stats and was dominant in Tennessee before he came to Washington. Archuleta had his best years in '03 and '04; in 2005, his last year in St. Louis, he was good but not great. We let a really good Ryan Clark go, and he went on to have a very good career in Pittsburgh.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Brad Johnson was coming off a Pro Bowl season in '99 and was due a contract extension.

Instead, Danny brings in George which was a clear slap in the face to BJ, and rumors were he strongly suggested behind the scenes that he wanted JG to start over BJ. Norv being the pushover he was really had no choice.

A year later Johnson was outta here, and Marty quickly disposed of George after a disastrous 37-0 drubbing to the Packers in week 2 in 2001.

I was so pissed about that. In Brad Johnson we finally had a capable QB. Instead we dissed him by bringing in Jay Shroeder part 2.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I was so pissed about that. In Brad Johnson we finally had a capable QB. Instead we dissed him by bringing in Jay Shroeder part 2.

I'm with you. I was a big Brad Johnson fan, hell the guy threw for 4,000 yards and 24 TDs in 1999, won the division and made the playoffs, and we reward him by bringing in a guy to take his job.

Only the Redskins could have messed up that situation.

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I'm with you. I was a big Brad Johnson fan, hell the guy threw for 4,000 yards and 24 TDs in 1999, won the division and made the playoffs, and we reward him by bringing in a guy to take his job.

Only the Redskins could have messed up that situation.

Seriously, it's amazing how bad we f'd up after the 1999 season. We had the #2 and #3 picks in the upcoming draft, we had just had I think the year before the Saints entire draft... and we were really good in 1999... I mean it's just sad how bad that went.