Cardinals give up huge bounty to acquire Kolb

[MTK]

AH didn't get $100M from us in true money.

$20M isn't a huge bounty? Damn I'm in the wrong biz.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

AH didn't get $100M from us in true money.

And Kolb is being signed on pure potential. If Kolb is a bust, AZ would have lost a young starting CB and a 2nd round. At least with AH all we lost was money that was dumped off during the cap-less year.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

AH didn't get $100M from us in true money.

Ok, he took away $36 Million, fleeced the front office on April 1st (April fools) last year for $21 million. Was that not enough for what he put on the field?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Ok, he took away $36 Million, fleeced the front office on April 1st (April fools) last year for $21 million. Was that not enough for what he put on the field?

Yes, but Haynesworth didn't cost us a 2nd rounder and a starting CB. Had there been no cap-less year, then we would be in trouble right now. But besides money, there hasn't been that big of a damage from the Haynesworth fiasco.

If Kolb fails, it would set back AZ for a year or two. It would wast a year of Larry Fitzgerald. You lose the guaranteed money, which affects your cap. And you lose a starting CB and a 2nd rounder. That is a lot of damage gambling on a guy that only started 7 games.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Ok, he took away $36 Million, fleeced the front office on April 1st (April fools) last year for $21 million. Was that not enough for what he put on the field?

True, but we're still kinda comparing apples and oranges here. AH was a bad signing by any stretch, but the Skins didn't have a Lombardi in mind after they signed Haynesworth.

The Cards have the entire franchise riding on Kevin Kolb and he hasn't proven at this level that he's capable of delivering on such a promise. All it would take is a few non-playoff appearances for someone in AZ to be on the hot seat.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Ok, he took away $36 Million, fleeced the front office on April 1st (April fools) last year for $21 million. Was that not enough for what he put on the field?

I'd say $20M and a player is a steep price for a QB with 7 starts.

What's this got to do with AH anyway?

[Lotus]

If Kolb is the real deal then Arizona won this trade.

If not, look out.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I'd say $20M and a player is a steep price for a QB with 7 starts.

What's this got to do with AH anyway?

It's always about Haynesworth. Even though one case has NOTHING to do with the other. Bitter fans that just can't let go. Someone last night brought Jason Campbell out of nowhere. I'm afraid this will happen all season.

[DCtoAZ]

I think all the hatred on this trade is a little baffling .. I live out here in AZ .. they sell out the stadium and the town is slowly becoming a football town .. you've got the BEST WR in the game, a great young RB from VT, a solid O and D line .. not to mention they drafted Peterson, probably the best player in the draft .. you've got to take a risk, so you go for a young talented QB ... DRC is a beast however he gets burned a shit load, kinda reminds me of D-Hall without all the ball skills .... AZ is going big and trying to make another playoff run, what's so wrong about that ?:confused:

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by DCtoAZ

I think all the hatred on this trade is a little baffling .. I live out here in AZ .. they sell out the stadium and the town is slowly becoming a football town .. you've got the BEST WR in the game, a great young RB from VT, a solid O and D line .. not to mention they drafted Peterson, probably the best player in the draft .. you've got to take a risk, so you go for a young talented QB ... DRC is a beast however he gets burned a shit load, kinda reminds me of D-Hall without all the ball skills .... AZ is going big and trying to make another playoff run, what's so wrong about that ?:confused:

what's wrong with that?

it makes philly better on the field (top 22), AND gives them a high pick next draft. if another team make the move it'd be just as bad.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by That Guy

what's wrong with that?

it makes philly better on the field (top 22), AND gives them a high pick next draft. if another team make the move it'd be just as bad.

Well, it is only a 2nd rounder, and if Kolb takes them to the playoffs in that weak division it'll be a late 2nd rounder at that. They're right. If Kolb becomes a franchise qb for AZ, nobody will care that the Eagles got a 2nd rounder and DRC.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

AH didn't get $100M from us in true money.

$20M isn't a huge bounty? Damn I'm in the wrong biz.

Very good point. We tend to focus on the size of the entire contract and not the guaranteed money.

I wonder how much more guaranteed bonus money Jenkins would have commanded above the $12.5 we gave Bowen?