Chris Chester Signs

[SmootSmack]

I doubt Cofield is coming here to be 3rd on the depth chart, and with one of the guys ahead of him a 7th round rookie

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Cofield will be a depth NT, probably behind Bryant and/or Neild.

Not a chance. He's starting and Bryant will be his main competition. I think we'll rotate those two a lot.

[Alvin Walton]

I cant wait to see the depth chart at the begining of Sept.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

It's funny that you mention Cofield, b/c I see his signing somewhat similar to what we have done before, sign a FA that doesn't fit our scheme. Otherwise, I don't see how these signings are similar to the busts we have had before.

they're not haynesworth, archaletta type of signings but it's obvious they're trying to win now instead of trying to build something. cofield is a good player and i assmue they're going to put him in positions where he'll be able to make plays. wilson is coming from a weak balt. secondary. throwing a lot of money to a career back up DE is not a good move, throwing money to chester, who was benched by balt isn't smart. then bringing in two more journeymen wr's when you drafted guys also doesn't make sense. we'll see how it shakes out but history shows that signing a lot of free agents doesn't work.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Not a chance. He's starting and Bryant will be his main competition. I think we'll rotate those two a lot.

Never say never.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

they're not haynesworth, archaletta type of signings but it's obvious they're trying to win now instead of trying to build something. cofield is a good player and i assmue they're going to put him in positions where he'll be able to make plays. wilson is coming from a weak balt. secondary. throwing a lot of money to a career back up DE is not a good move, throwing money to chester, who was benched by balt isn't smart. then bringing in two more journeymen wr's when you drafted guys also doesn't make sense. we'll see how it shakes out but history shows that signing a lot of free agents doesn't work.

Bowen was on the verge of becoming a starter in Dallas. I can probably agree with you about Chester, I would have rather them throw money to Yanda, a much better. And I wouldn't take many of the WRs signings very serious.

A lot of the guys they've signed are in the mid to late 20s, much different than the older guys they used to go for. If they wanted to win now, they would have bet the farm for Kolb or Orton or Palmer, have paid a ton of money for Franklin or Nnamdi. Heck, they could've given a lot of money to Jenkins.

I am not going to say that all the signings have been great and that we are going to the SB. But a lot of these moves seem to be much better than anything we've done in the past, and that includes last year.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Bowen was on the verge of becoming a starter in Dallas. I can probably agree with you about Chester, I would have rather them throw money to Yanda, a much better. And I wouldn't take many of the WRs signings very serious.

A lot of the guys they've signed are in the mid to late 20s, much different than the older guys they used to go for. If they wanted to win now, they would have bet the farm for Kolb or Orton or Palmer, have paid a ton of money for Franklin or Nnamdi. Heck, they could've given a lot of money to Jenkins.

I am not going to say that all the signings have been great and that we are going to the SB. But a lot of these moves seem to be much better than anything we've done in the past, and that includes last year.

yanda was never coming here. he didn't want to, and his current team was going to pay him, so no use wishing on it now. If i had the choice, I'd choose yanda too, but it was never a serious option from everything i've read.

[ethat001]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I am not going to say that all the signings have been great and that we are going to the SB. But a lot of these moves seem to be much better than anything we've done in the past, and that includes last year.

I think this is the key point. You have to have good players at every spot, and then bring in a couple of superstars. We're rebuilding, so we need to get team full of good (not great) team players. Over the next few years we should develop, draft or get the superstar FA's. But these signings so far have been good to bolster us overall. Every good team out there have a couple of superstars, and then a bunch of "good" team players.

Like what we've done on defense so far. Think we overpaid the D-linemen, but we still have money to spend. Disappointed in getting little for McNabb after giving up 2/3rd picks last year, but happy to get something for Haynesworth.

Still need O-linemen. Remember, FA only begins in 30 minutes.

[Mechanix544]

well, we need either jamal brown to come back or harris. If i were a betting man, i could see us signing a couple guards to compete with our current guys for the other side (starting LG). No big names, all career backups or "value " type players who are athletic enough to have a chance to excel in the zbs Good footwork and smart, gritty, and hopefully younger than 29.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

I'll give you, McNabb was a bust for us and that was Shanny's idea, but Donovan's to blame too.

Do you realize that AH was causing problems for Zorn too? You can't blame Shanahan one bit for starting that. For $100 million, Albert should have been the punter if asked. He showed in a few games that he COULD be a great NT if he put any effort at all into it, so the whole "I am not a NT" whining is ridiculous.

I know AH gave zorn some problems,and like I said its not all on Shanahan about Big Al either,but some of it is.Again I will ask,why do you take a top 5 defense where your paying a guy 100 million to anchor a 4-3 and switch it to a 3-4?
Answer is you dont and I think Shanahan has somehow escaped a lot of heat on this.A great coach adapts to the talent,he has shown nothing to me but an ego bigger then Texas.And then hiring your son as offensive coordinator?I mean WTF!? Doesnt anybody see a conflict of interest there!?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I know AH gave zorn some problems,and like I said its not all on Shanahan about Big Al either,but some of it is.Again I will ask,why do you take a top 5 defense where your paying a guy 100 million to anchor a 4-3 and switch it to a 3-4?
Answer is you dont and I think Shanahan has somehow escaped a lot of heat on this.A great coach adapts to the talent,he has shown nothing to me but an ego bigger then Texas.And then hiring your son as offensive coordinator?I mean WTF!? Doesnt anybody see a conflict of interest there!?

I would, had Kyle Shanahan not made the Texans' offense into a passing game extraordinaire during his time there.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by mooby

I would, had Kyle Shanahan not made the Texans' offense into a passing game extraordinaire during his time there.

I think Matt Schaub and the best reciever in the NFL had more to do with that then Kyle

[mooby]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I think Matt Schaub and the best reciever in the NFL had more to do with that then Kyle

I think it's an equal combination of players and a coach who knows how to use them.

[Mechanix544]

well, if we are in the cellar this year, in terms of defense, i know that jim haslett can kiss his overrated ass goodbye. two strait years of being 31st in the nfl in total defense wouldnt really fly around here, not when you took over a defense that consistently were in the top 10 in all defensive rankings (except sacks), and all that despite an offense that couldnt move the ball even if they bought it a taxi ride and a plane ticket.

People seem to forget that shanahans defenses in denver were in the basement of the league rankings the last 6-7 years there. He is hardly a defensive genius. I think that his switch to the 34 from a solid 43, even without the correct personnel to do so, says alot. We'll see how far the skins fans let him ride out mediocrity. without a john elway, it just doesnt seem like he has done much. at least gibbs did it with different quarterbacks, backup quarterbacks, and whoever the hell else. Shanny hasn't really proven much, except that he can turn young undrafted rookie rbs into pro bowlers, and that really doesnt take us too far right now, does it?

for now, I maintain my cautious optimism that the skins are headed in the right direction.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I think Matt Schaub and the best reciever in the NFL had more to do with that then Kyle

our passing game was the only thing that wasn't complete garbage last year (stat wise) we were #8, with bad blocking and suspect QB play.