Some optimism on the 'Shanaplan'

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'm not in the locker room, but have talked to people who have talked to people that are. And the locker room is not at all lost. It's probably not quite at the "we'll do anything for anyone" days of Gibbs but it's not lost.

I did underestimate though how strongly the players feel about Rex vs. Beck. I thought it was just talk supporting the starting QB at the time (Grossman), but no the actual respect for Beck the QB is (deservedly, in my opinion) quite low inside the locker room

See that's where I get confused. Until the 2nd half of the '07 season (after Sean died) I don't remember Gibbs offense or s teams playing much inspired football. The defense mostly did but I thought it was Williams leadership? I think Gibbs could have taken the team to a new level in '08 but that's just me.

...could be wrong but my impression is the has-been coaches usually don't thrive in the game today. The extent to which Mike has regressed as a game-manager, talent evaluator, motivator and head-coach is unparalleled and nothing like Joe's 2nd tenure. I think if Joe had a better FO situation (aka no Vinny and lil Danny muddling around but a real GM) he could have made the franchise a contender.