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[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

I wouldn't mind giving up Champ and a second rounder for Portis. Champ is basically gone and though I'd hate to lose the 2nd rounder, it would be well worth it.

If we were to trade Champ to Detroit for their 1st and 2nd (which they are balking at), I highly doubt that we would get two players equal in value to Portis. Plus, we're going to spend tons of money on a players drafted #6 overall (probably close to what we'd spend on Portis). Third, there is no guarantee that the players we draft will be decent. They could end up being overpaid washouts. Fourth, Portis is very, very young (22) and he's got years left before he hits his peak. Finally, there are a number of decent corners that could adequately fill the void left by Champ.

Go for the trade and get some good defensive players in free agency.

[BrudLee]

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

I wouldn't mind giving up Champ and a second rounder for Portis. Champ is basically gone and though I'd hate to lose the 2nd rounder, it would be well worth it.

If we were to trade Champ to Detroit for their 1st and 2nd (which they are balking at), I highly doubt that we would get two players equal in value to Portis. Plus, we're going to spend tons of money on a players drafted #6 overall (probably close to what we'd spend on Portis). Third, there is no guarantee that the players we draft will be decent. They could end up being overpaid washouts. Fourth, Portis is very, very young (22) and he's got years left before he hits his peak. Finally, there are a number of decent corners that could adequately fill the void left by Champ.

Go for the trade and get some good defensive players in free agency.

Portis's age is a big deal here. We've talked about drafting a player, but Portis has NFL experience - unmatched by most everyone (3000 yards in two years), and is only a year older than Kevin Jones, and two years older than Steven Jackson. "Can't miss" is an overused phrase, so I'm trying to think up a better one. I'll let you know if I do.

[Teemotay]

(9:00 AM): Bailey-Portis deal "all but done"...At least that's what sources in Denver are saying regarding a proposed trade that would send Pro Bowl Denver RB Clinton Portis to Washington in exchange for Pro Bowl CB Champ Bailey and the Redskins' second round pick at the 2004 draft. According to the source, the two teams have settled on the compensation. Now both teams are feverishly trying to work new contract deals with the respective players. Denver, which is tight to the cap could have the harder time fitting Bailey, who has already rejected a 9-year, $55M, including a $15M signing bonus, from the Redskins. In fact, sources in Washington are a little more guarded in their optimism about a deal getting done. The Redskins are talking with Portis about a contract extension, but are still taking offers for Bailey from other teams just in case. The Jets, for example, have reportedly offered the Redskins Pro Bowl DE Shaun Ellis, RB LaMont Jordan and TE Anthony Becht to Washington for Bailey, RB Ladell Betts and that #2 pick.

[AnonEmouse]

That Jets offer actually sounds good. We get a DE and TE, and we could work some other trades to get more picks and get a good RB (I don't see Jordan as better than a backup) too.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

I don't like the Jets trade at all.

Betts for Jordan - okay that's a push (neither has lived up to the hype)
Becht for high 2nd roudner - okay that's a push
Ellis for Bailey-Ellis is a very good player and is coming on but he is not worth anything close to Bailey

[BrudLee]

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

I don't like the Jets trade at all.

Betts for Jordan - okay that's a push (neither has lived up to the hype)
Becht for high 2nd roudner - okay that's a push
Ellis for Bailey-Ellis is a very good player and is coming on but he is not worth anything close to Bailey

We're getting shafted in that proposal.

Jordan is a slight upgrade - in terms of durability. There aren't five TE's in the league worth trading away a high second rounder for - the potential of the pick is more valuable. Ellis for Bailey is laughable.

The Jets are trying to make their fans forget about Coles, Hall, Thomas, and Morton leaving by sticking us.

[AnonEmouse]

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

I don't like the Jets trade at all.

Betts for Jordan - okay that's a push (neither has lived up to the hype)
Becht for high 2nd roudner - okay that's a push
Ellis for Bailey-Ellis is a very good player and is coming on but he is not worth anything close to Bailey

In re-reading it I agree. If they dropped the 2nd rounder to a 5th or lower, or no pick at all, I'd go for it.

[Teemotay]

The Jets offer may not be the best in the world, but I sure do like that the Skins weren't so quick to just run with the Portis - Bailey & 2nd round pick trade. Here are a few of my concerns....

A) Portis has certainly shown that he can run the ball, but as many folks have stated (both here on the board, and all over the news), there haven't been many RBs in Denver recently that haven't been able to run the ball.

B) The proposed trade with Denver fills one hole on the Skins team, opens up another (albeit an inevitable hole.....Chump is gone), but most importantly, that trade leaves us with little room to improve the many other areas on the team that are in need of improvement. Portis will undoubtedly sign a big contract (perhaps long term, which may lighten the cap hit a bit, but I'm sure it will still be a decent hit), so the Skins will still have some cap issues. Plus, with yet another draft pick gone, we'll be forced to go to the FA market, which is typically filled with guys who want more money, or are past their prime. At least the Jets trade would fill improve on a couple of positions.

C) And this one, I must admit, I'm not really "in the know" about.....but from what I've heard, Portis is a young kid with a huge chip on his shoulder. Several of his former prisonmates/teammates (at Miami, I'm not sure which term they use ;-) have expressed some displeasure with Portis' attitude....namely Willis McGahee & Jeremy Shockey.

Again, I'm not saying that the Jets offer is the one we should accept, but I do like that they're still out there shopping. Is yet another "superstar" the answer?? I sure wish they'd talk to Buffalo about possibly working out some blockbuster deal to get Travis Henry & Antoine Winfield for Bailey, Betts, and perhaps a few other options to sweeten the pot. That would give us yet another great DB, plus a money RB.