QB Combo Possibilities: Which Do You Want (QB Rumors: Verse 10)

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Here's the thing though about RG3 compared to the QB's we've been looking at in the draft the last few years. This is not only the first one where 90%+ is willing to trade up to get him, but probably the first QB ever where people are on board with the possibility of giving up multiple first to get him. Nothing remotely close to that happened with Sanchez, Bradford, or Gabbert. Heck people would have flipped if we gave up a second round pick to move up for Gabbert last year.

Either way RGIII is not your average prospect. I'm looking at the drafts over the past decade and I don't think I can find one besides this year where he wouldn't have been the number 1 QB off the board. To think that there are two prospects in the same draft like Luck and RG3, it's amazing.

I mean think about these QB's on draft day

2011 - Cam Newton
2010 - Sam Bradford
2009 - Matt Stafford
2008 - Matt Ryan
2007 - JaWalrus Russell
2006 - Vince Young
2005 - Alex Smith
2004 - Eli Manning
2003 - Carson Palmer
2002 - David Carr
2001 - Michael Vick
2000 - Chad Pennington
1999 - Tim Couch
1998 - Peyton Manning

We have to go back 8 years to find a better draft day prospect then Robert Griffin. Then you have to go back another 6 years (both guys are named Manning). Take that wait till next year crowd.

Thats a nice hindesight look at things and I'd agree with you. But put yourself in the days leading up to those drafts during each year and you'll see fans and teams talking similarly to how everyone here talks about RGIII. I can remember last year Jake Locker was supposed to be the 1, after the Combine Newton looked good. Fans and teams were "hey we should give up the farm for one of them." I can remember fans talking about how Russell and Young were the best things since sliced bread and we should "do whatever it takes to get them" at the time.

Which is another reason I'm not a fan of loosing the draft picks and reaching to get him. 1 pick for one player I'd take him in a heart beat. But as we know thats not how the "chart" works or supply and demand.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Thats a nice hindesight look at things and I'd agree with you. But put yourself in the days leading up to those drafts during each year and you'll see fans and teams talking similarly to how everyone here talks about RGIII. I can remember last year Jake Locker was supposed to be the 1, after the Combine Newton looked good. Fans and teams were "hey we should give up the farm for one of them." I can remember fans talking about how Russell and Young were the best things since sliced bread and we should "do whatever it takes to get them" at the time.

Which is another reason I'm not a fan of loosing the draft picks and reaching to get him. 1 pick for one player I'd take him in a heart beat. But as we know thats not how the "chart" works or supply and demand.

Locker was not going #1, not sure why you keep saying that.

And after the combine Newton actually looked like crap, at least when it came to his throwing.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Locker was not going #1, not sure why you keep saying that.

And after the combine Newton actually looked like crap, at least when it came to his throwing.

Because prior to the season ending Locker was the going to be the #1 pick. As far as I remember Newton was not near the top until after Gruden interviewed him. I'm pretty sure it was Locker, and Gabbert who were bouncing around the #1 spot. Ponder, Mallet, and Dalton were all talked about being anywhere from RD 2-4.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Because prior to the season ending Locker was the going to be the #1 pick. As far as I remember Newton was not near the top until after Gruden interviewed him. I'm pretty sure it was Locker, and Gabbert who were bouncing around the #1 spot. Ponder, Mallet, and Dalton were all talked about being anywhere from RD 2-4.

Newton was number one pretty much on everyone's board last year, I never heard the Panthers picking Locker one.


I have been reading your post this off season and I think you need to slow down and formulate your thoughts better. You are all over the place like melted butter on a English Muffin.

Here is thought write your post in Word, save it. Go back to it in 5 minutes reread it and if it still makes sense to you post it.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Newton was number one pretty much on everyone's board last year, I never heard the Panthers picking Locker one.


I have been reading your post this off season and I think you need to slow down and formulate your thoughts better. You are all over the place like melted butter on a English Muffin.

Here is thought write your post in Word, save it. Go back to it in 5 minutes reread it and if it still makes sense to you post it.

Butter. I love butter. :O

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Because prior to the season ending Locker was the going to be the #1 pick. As far as I remember Newton was not near the top until after Gruden interviewed him. I'm pretty sure it was Locker, and Gabbert who were bouncing around the #1 spot. Ponder, Mallet, and Dalton were all talked about being anywhere from RD 2-4.

Incorrect. Locker was thought, by analysts and commentators, to be #1 pick in the 2010 draft before deciding to stay in school. By the 2011 draft his stock had fallen due to a bad completion percentage and some game film (like Nebraska). The Newton vs. Gabbert did go on....but Cam was a much better prospect (albeit with an appreciable amount of red flags).

[Shadowbyte]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

Incorrect. Locker was thought, by analysts and commentators, to be #1 pick in the 2010 draft before deciding to stay in school. By the 2011 draft his stock had fallen due to a bad completion percentage and some game film (like Nebraska). The Newton vs. Gabbert did go on....but Cam was a much better prospect (albeit with an appreciable amount of red flags).

You're right, they thought Locker would be number one due to the injury history of Sam Bradford.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Locker was not going #1, not sure why you keep saying that.

And after the combine Newton actually looked like crap, at least when it came to his throwing.

Well in all fairness he's kind of right. Many pundits said he would have been picked first overall had he declared for the 2010 draft thinking the problems he had with accuracy were temporary. When he put together another average season his senior year thats when his stock started to slip.

2011 though no one said he was going number 1 overall. And now I'm realizing Son of Man basically said the same thing. slaps self in head *idiot idiot idiot*