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[MTK]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I think he has the talent to actually surpass Fred Davis. He's already a better blocker and faster.

Whoa, might want to pump the brakes just a tad.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Whoa, might want to pump the brakes just a tad.

I didn't say he will, I just said he had the talent to surpass him. Both of what I've said is true. Paul is a better blocker. Paul is faster. That doesn't mean Paul will become a better TE.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I didn't say he will, I just said he had the talent to surpass him. Both of what I've said is true. Paul is a better blocker. Paul is faster. That doesn't mean Paul will become a better TE.

Paul might be a better blocker in your opinion and that's fine.
But, he has yet to practice one live rep at TE.
Being a good blocker against DBs and the occasional LB is one thing.
Being an end of the line TE that can set the seal the edge in the running game and sometimes block DEs one-on-one is quite another ball of wax.
I'm hopeful for Paul's successful conversion too but imo he's unlikely to ever reach Davis blocking ability on the line much less surpass it.
And I doubt that's how they want to use him anyway.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by 30gut

But, he has yet to practice one live rep at TE.
Being a good blocker against DBs and the occasional LB is one thing.

You do realize he played in the TE set at the end of last season right?

The additional size he's gained will help him tremendously with blocking bigger people. People forget he was in a run oriented offense at Nebraska.

Shanny had an exactly the same type of TE back when he was winning super bowls. His name was Shannon Sharpe.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

You do realize he played in the TE set at the end of last season right?

The additional size he's gained will help him tremendously with blocking bigger people. People forget he was in a run oriented offense at Nebraska.

Shanny had an exactly the same type of TE back when he was winning super bowls. His name was Shannon Sharpe.

Actually, I already knew that as a WR he played in some TE sets last year when Davis was suspended.
Yes, I realize that he's added some size and he's a good blocker for a WR.
Yes, I realize that he's roughly the same size/speed combo as Shannon Sharpe.
However none of it means that Paul is a better blocker then Fred Davis.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Actually, I already knew that as a WR he played in some TE sets last year when Davis was suspended.
Yes, I realize that he's added some size and he's a good blocker for a WR.
Yes, I realize that he's roughly the same size/speed combo as Shannon Sharpe.
However none of it means that Paul is a better blocker then Fred Davis.

If Cooley's main weakness is his blocking, and he's a better blocker than Fred Davis, what does that tell you about Fred Davis?

I'm willing to bet you good money even right now that Paul is a better blocking TE than Fred Davis. Then again, it doesn't take much to be better than Davis in that area, but he isn't on the field b/c of his blocking.

I'm not making the claim he'll be starting by the end of the season. I merely said he has the talent to surpass FD and listed 2 areas he already does surpass him in.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

If Cooley's main weakness is his blocking, and he's a better blocker than Fred Davis, what does that tell you about Fred Davis?

I think your perception of Davis blocking is based on old labels from 2 years ago.
I've seen David seal the edge in the running game and block DEs.
Is Davis inconsistent? Sure.
Does he miss blocks sometimes, sure who doesn't.
I have yet to see Paul seal the edge on or block a DE one-on-one or combo block with a Trent Williams on the outside stretch.

I'm willing to bet you good money even right now that Paul is a better blocking TE than Fred Davis. Then again, it doesn't take much to be better than Davis in that area, but he isn't on the field b/c of his blocking.

I'm not sure how I would collect after I won.
But, I'm sure we could ask someone to ask one the Skins coaches or people close to team if Paul is a better blocker then Davis.

Davis plays alot of snap and the reason he can be on the field so much is because of his blocking, his blocking makes him a complete TE.
And being a complete TE is part of the reason Davis was franchised tagged.

I'm not making the claim he'll be starting by the end of the season. I merely said he has the talent to surpass FD and listed 2 areas he already does surpass him in.

I think Paul has the tools to be good movement/match-up receiving threat TE.
And I can't wait to see him in game action.
But, I can't see him becoming an true in-line TE because of his blocking.
But then again, why would you take a movement TE and make them an in-line TE?

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

You do realize he played in the TE set at the end of last season right?

The additional size he's gained will help him tremendously with blocking bigger people. People forget he was in a run oriented offense at Nebraska.

Shanny had an exactly the same type of TE back when he was winning super bowls. His name was Shannon Sharpe.

You have to remember one thing. For whatever reason FDavis has risen to cult status among some fans. Last year he had his best yr of his career, but I didn't see him doing any better or worse then Cooley has done when healthy. So now that I've opened that can of worms lets takle it..... yes Cooley has been injured recently and I've wondered what could be the problem.... maybe he's just getting old, which I doubt thats a serious problem, or could it be something else. I think we shall see this year since it sounds like he had gained a lot of weight and has lost it for this coming year. That alone will wear on the knees.

But the problem with FDavis is he also seems to drop the ball, or fumble more then Cooley also. Not a good trait to have.

Blocking? Everyone seems to forget about Paulsen who was brought in for .... wait for it... yes his blocking ability. Paulsen filled in nicely and did an excellent job. Paul knows how to block which is a good thing, but he is listed as 6ft-1in, 224lbs on Redskins.com which is only about 25lbs lighter then Cooley or Davis. If he's gained close to 25lbs of muscle then Paul will be fine as a TE.

I still don't understand the cult status FDavis has gotten since he has yet to make it to a Pro Bowl even though fans seem to think he's going there every year.