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Old 09-19-2012, 01:22 PM   #1
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Blache's Cobra package.
Ahhhh good memory sir. Was it successful? I seem to remember guys around here liking it...
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Old 09-24-2012, 05:06 AM   #2
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It's a solid argument. Our dline personnel are undoubtedly (still) better suited for a 4-3 defense, and the LB group would be an easy switch back as London is the key to it anyway.

I remember putting three safeties on the field for certain packages in years past too. Was it under Blache or Haslett?
I agree, they need a 4 man front with this group, whether the ends are standing or touching dirt. The team is effective against the run, but not at all against the pass. This team would be better with 3 corners I think, given the roster.

Blache used 3 corners in 08 mostly, using Springs or Hall replacing linebacker M.Washington frequently, and that was the last good defensive team. They have pretty much stunk since then, but this year is an abomination. Blache used 3 safeties more in 09, but they were not nearly as good.

I have to say, from a personnel standpoint, that this roster is better than the 2008 defensive roster in my honest opinion. It is more of a passing league now however, and that is why I would implement a 4-2-5 as a base. Robinson can come in as a 3rd linebacker on occasion, but Riley and Fletch are every down players.
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Old 09-18-2012, 11:05 PM   #3
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what the hell are you guys talking about with WR talk .. and since when is losing RAK not a big deal ? I mean WTF seriously ..Skins' fans are starting to piss me off on this site ... like all the hating on everyone week to week ... dude we have a good defense .. obviously the Rams we were snake bit but losing those 2 players is a huge loss .. i agree w/ Jenkins it's his time to shine .. but Rak come on, that dude was straight up beast mode. Don't sound like a bunch of fair weather fans jesus. I'm on a flight from AZ as we type and I'll be 6 rows deep in the endzone to see the home opener. You don't think the other 90,000 people will give our D some noise and crank this bitch up. Calm up people. And I do agree w/ Banks, he's just pissing me off more and more. That being said, he'll probably break 2 back for tD's this weekend cause that's what he does.
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:06 AM   #4
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DC to AZ I agree with you.
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:04 AM   #5
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what the hell are you guys talking about with WR talk .. and since when is losing RAK not a big deal ? I mean WTF seriously ..Skins' fans are starting to piss me off on this site ... like all the hating on everyone week to week ... dude we have a good defense .. obviously the Rams we were snake bit but losing those 2 players is a huge loss .. i agree w/ Jenkins it's his time to shine .. but Rak come on, that dude was straight up beast mode. Don't sound like a bunch of fair weather fans jesus. I'm on a flight from AZ as we type and I'll be 6 rows deep in the endzone to see the home opener. You don't think the other 90,000 people will give our D some noise and crank this bitch up. Calm up people. And I do agree w/ Banks, he's just pissing me off more and more. That being said, he'll probably break 2 back for tD's this weekend cause that's what he does.
What is really funny on here is if you are just a crappy role player or 3rd stinger and you get hurt. OMG! People will go off on here that he was the most important element of the team (see our Safety situation). Yet when a legit star quality player like Rak goes down it is oh well not a big lost. Rak was on the decline; guy was not living up to hype, etc....

I just shake my head on here many days.
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:15 AM   #6
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Re: Orakpo and Carriker Done for Season

Rak is a great player and it's a terrible loss..but I'm not ready to give up on the season over losing one player. We have 14 games left and unlike the past we have some quality depth. Make it work Haslett. That's what your'e being paid for.
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:09 AM   #7
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Trying to make the best of a bad situation. Now is the time to implement a new defensive scheme in my opinion. Why not go with a 4 man front of Kerrigan-Bowen-Cofield-Jackson with steady substitutions?

I'd like to see more nickel as a base D with Crawford as the primary n-back. Teams are passing over 60% of the time, and a 4-2-5 would seem to be a better fit in today's game. Gomes or Meriweather would be used as a hybrid linebacker-safety to stop the running game and cover the tight end.

Also now is be the time to go with a steady press-man cover scheme with Wilson covering the #1, Crawford-Griffin #2, and Hall the slot or back. Having 2 safeties gives protection against the deep ball still, and Hall is always in position to blitz or help with run support. Have to disrupt receivers' patterns to throw timing off, and play a more aggressive, physical brand of football without all out blitzes leaving the secondary vulnerable.

It's all about utilizing talent with positive matchups. Keeping the 4 man front fresh throughout the game while minimizing linebacker coverage responsibilities seems the best fit for the current roster in my honest opinion.
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Yes, this defense is a mess, but I think the scheme should be better utiliized to minimize the coverage deficiencies. The league has caught on to what Haslett is about, and exploiting his scheming and playcalling in my honest opinion. He's not fooling anyone, and the back end players aren't good enough to overcome being outcoached.
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Old 09-24-2012, 04:23 AM   #10
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Re: Orakpo and Carriker Done for Season

Run defense has been solid on average thus far. I don't really think it's as easy as swithing to the 4-3. Guys just need to dig deeper. That's leadership's responsibility to motivate.
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