Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Its because Shanahan should've had ESP and known that McBecex was going to suck and RG3 is the second coming of Sammy Baugh and secretly is every offensive player we have.

Coaches? RG3 don't need no stinkin coaches.

I love ya Dynamite Rave.

But its true. RG3 don't need no stinkin' coaches. Or a playbook either, for that matter!

You all think that me goat and gtripp like being the negative nancies. Pretty sure we don't.

But us three also don't like going up a hill in neutral either. And thats just what we see. Shit, we are prolly wrong, and our defense will probably tighten up quicker than a homophobe's sphincter muscle at a gay club. We all hope it does.

But at the end of the day, I think us three expect a little more than the usual wait and see that us redskins fans have gotten way too used to the past 20 years. With RG3, hopefully Dan Snyder will see what us three think this team could be, and cut bait from the 75 year old coach who hasn't had a playoff appearance in the past 7 seasons, but who has now all of a sudden started to show results, just when our qb savior comes around. You all want to give that credit to the egomaniac coach with a 35% winning %, fine. Us three put ours on the young out of this universe athlete and what HE brings to the table.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

I love ya Dynamite Rave.

But its true. RG3 don't need no stinkin' coaches. Or a playbook either, for that matter!

You all think that me goat and gtripp like being the negative nancies. Pretty sure we don't.

But us three also don't like going up a hill in neutral either. And thats just what we see. Shit, we are prolly wrong, and our defense will probably tighten up quicker than a homophobe's sphincter muscle at a gay club. We all hope it does.

But at the end of the day, I think us three expect a little more than the usual wait and see that us redskins fans have gotten way too used to the past 20 years. With RG3, hopefully Dan Snyder will see what us three think this team could be, and cut bait from the 75 year old coach who hasn't had a playoff appearance in the past 7 seasons, but who has now all of a sudden started to show results, just when our qb savior comes around. You all want to give that credit to the egomaniac coach with a 35% winning %, fine. Us three put ours on the young out of this universe athlete and what HE brings to the table.

This is a great metaphor. lol

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

I love ya Dynamite Rave.

But its true. RG3 don't need no stinkin' coaches. Or a playbook either, for that matter!

You all think that me goat and gtripp like being the negative nancies. Pretty sure we don't.

But us three also don't like going up a hill in neutral either. And thats just what we see. Shit, we are prolly wrong, and our defense will probably tighten up quicker than a homophobe's sphincter muscle at a gay club. We all hope it does.

But at the end of the day, I think us three expect a little more than the usual wait and see that us redskins fans have gotten way too used to the past 20 years. With RG3, hopefully Dan Snyder will see what us three think this team could be, and cut bait from the 75 year old coach who hasn't had a playoff appearance in the past 7 seasons, but who has now all of a sudden started to show results, just when our qb savior comes around. You all want to give that credit to the egomaniac coach with a 35% winning %, fine. Us three put ours on the young out of this universe athlete and what HE brings to the table.

Well you and Goat and GTripp are obviously knuckleheads! How dare you question anything about this organization after years and years of...of...of....nevermind.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Well you and Goat and GTripp are obviously knuckleheads! How dare you question anything about this organization after years and years of...of...of....nevermind.

There are lots of things to question. It is the unrelenting, complete and utter failure to credit anything that the organization has done right under MS/BA that is drawing ire.

Let me speak in the same language that has been leveled at me and see if it makes it easier for you to see why I find the posts blasting Shanahan so obnoxious:

If you can't see that this organization is in a better place than it was 3 years ago, then you are a moronic Cerrato apologist.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

There are lots of things to question. It is the unrelenting, complete and utter failure to credit anything that the organization has done right under MS/BA that is drawing ire.

Let me speak in the same language that has been leveled at me and see if it makes it easier for you to see why I find the posts blasting Shanahan so obnoxious:

If you can't see that this organization is in a better place than it was 3 years ago, then you are a moronic Cerrato apologist.

redskins win or i'm mad. if you like redskins lose, you're bad. if you don't know that you need to grow a brain

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

There are lots of things to question. It is the unrelenting, complete and utter failure to credit anything that the organization has done right under MS/BA that is drawing ire.

Let me speak in the same language that has been leveled at me and see if it makes it easier for you to see why I find the posts blasting Shanahan so obnoxious:

If you can't see that this organization is in a better place than it was 3 years ago, then you are a moronic Cerrato apologist.

To add to that, don't say Shanahan had the benefit of coaching in the weak AFC and then laud Jeff Fisher his accomplishments in the AFC. Don't say Shanahan was at fault for poor QB play last year and then deny his influence of the strong QB play this year. Don't say we need to get rid of a has been in Mike Shanahan and then suggest we should consider Bill Cowher. And don't say that if you agree with a moderator's opinion you're just a sycophant.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

To add to that, don't say Shanahan had the benefit of coaching in the weak AFC and then laud Jeff Fisher his accomplishments in the AFC. Don't say Shanahan was at fault for poor QB play last year and then deny his influence of the strong QB play this year. Don't say we need to get rid of a has been in Mike Shanahan and then suggest we should consider Bill Cowher. And don't say that if you agree with a moderator's opinion you're just a sycophant.

Nah, I never said Cowher or anyone like him. I would like a new guy, preferably someone with a great football mind, up and coming, possibly college or coordinator ranks. I don't think goat or tripp said cowher, but I do believe that Cowher AND Gruden might do better than shanny. Defensive minded coach shoring up the defense, and get a good coordinator to fine tune RG3 and the offense. But the defense needs a looking at. Its true that teams win with porous defenses, but our offense isn't clicking on all cylinders just yet to be able to overcome the travesty that is our current defensive state. We do not have the receivers to accomodate that angle, but I believe we have a nice start with the QB and RB, and even TE if Davis can recover and isn't looking for top 5 TE pay.

Point is, I'm just tired of waiting. Seems like it never takes other teams so damn long to just contend for the division, or even a wildcard spot. I do hope we pull it together, but I do believe that the coaching staff is leaning way too much on Griffins playmaking ability, and not as much on executing a good gameplan that mixes some stuff up. Our success seems much more ad lib than anything, and I don't think that long term that is the answer. RG3 won't be able to sustain that, or cover up for so many other areas for too much longer. Our offensive line is still a concern whether people see it or not, RG3 has been pressured and slammed PLENTY, but he puts points on the board, so it gets overshadowed. Its still an area that needs severe coaching up, or upgrading, or both.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

Nah, I never said Cowher or anyone like him. I would like a new guy, preferably someone with a great football mind, up and coming, possibly college or coordinator ranks. I don't think goat or tripp said cowher, but I do believe that Cowher AND Gruden might do better than shanny. Defensive minded coach shoring up the defense, and get a good coordinator to fine tune RG3 and the offense. But the defense needs a looking at. Its true that teams win with porous defenses, but our offense isn't clicking on all cylinders just yet to be able to overcome the travesty that is our current defensive state. We do not have the receivers to accomodate that angle, but I believe we have a nice start with the QB and RB, and even TE if Davis can recover and isn't looking for top 5 TE pay.

Point is, I'm just tired of waiting. Seems like it never takes other teams so damn long to just contend for the division, or even a wildcard spot. I do hope we pull it together, but I do believe that the coaching staff is leaning way too much on Griffins playmaking ability, and not as much on executing a good gameplan that mixes some stuff up. Our success seems much more ad lib than anything, and I don't think that long term that is the answer. RG3 won't be able to sustain that, or cover up for so many other areas for too much longer. Our offensive line is still a concern whether people see it or not, RG3 has been pressured and slammed PLENTY, but he puts points on the board, so it gets overshadowed. Its still an area that needs severe coaching up, or upgrading, or both.

Didn't we try that? Oh, lets go back and try that again.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

There are lots of things to question. It is the unrelenting, complete and utter failure to credit anything that the organization has done right under MS/BA that is drawing ire.

Let me speak in the same language that has been leveled at me and see if it makes it easier for you to see why I find the posts blasting Shanahan so obnoxious:

If you can't see that this organization is in a better place than it was 3 years ago, then you are a moronic Cerrato apologist.

Believe me I do understand Joe....wait! Did you just imply something bad about Vinny?