London Fletcher leaning towards playing in 2013 (updated)

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I'll look for a video replay at some point. Admittedly, three of my best buds are Dallas fans and we all watched the first game (in Dallas), so I've never heard the last of this one play. But it was pretty shocking how bad/weak Robinson was. Dez caught a ball near the sideline, maybe it was a screen, and juked the first defender out of his shoes. By that time Robinson had come from midfield, he was at a full run but didn't lower his shoulder to make the tackle (terrible form all around really) and Dez turned around just in time to lower his shoulder and absolutely slam Robinson to the turf, before he scampered off for a big gain.

I feel like if the roles were reversed, say Morgan or Garcon did this to Lee, it would be in Redskins lore already. Honestly surprised so few remember it around here because Robinson was just pathetic, but again I've had to hear about it ever since.

Unless there's some kind of inside info about Robinson "holding back" or suddenly discovering his inner awesomeness, the notion he's anywhere near starting caliber is insane. Oh, and he's coming off injury too.

You are dismissing Robinson based on one play? You'd have to release every player in the league by that logic. I saw Tom Brady throw a dumb interception - so the Pats should bench him as not ready to start?

C'mon man.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Lotus

You are dismissing Robinson based on one play? You'd have to release every player in the league by that logic. I saw Tom Brady throw a dumb interception - so the Pats should bench him as not ready to start?

C'mon man.

This post is below your typical IQ IMO.

I've not heard/seen/read a single reference about Robinson impressing on a specific play, series or game. And again, now he's coming off a relatively serious injury. The rising notion he's a starter, let alone a good choice for replacing London, is just absurd. That's my point.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by The Goat

This post is below your typical IQ IMO.

I've not heard/seen/read a single reference about Robinson impressing on a specific play, series or game. And again, now he's coming off a relatively serious injury. The rising notion he's a starter, let alone a good choice for replacing London, is just absurd. That's my point.

Mr. Goat, I respectfully offer that you missed my point entirely. The point was that you cannot judge a player, for good or for ill, based on one play. Yet you did just this in a post above.

Further, you are forgetting that Robinson was a rookie. Did you know that Santana Moss caught only two passes as a rookie? Based on his rookie production, it would have been "absurd" to think that Moss could be a viable #1 receiver. Yet that is exactly what happened.

Rookies often struggle. And then they improve. Such might happen to Robinson, prior injury or not.

[Bubba305-ST21-]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Mr. Goat, I respectfully offer that you missed my point entirely. The point was that you cannot judge a player, for good or for ill, based on one play. Yet you did just this in a post above.

Further, you are forgetting that Robinson was a rookie. Did you know that Santana Moss caught only two passes as a rookie? Based on his rookie production, it would have been "absurd" to think that Moss could be a viable #1 receiver. Yet that is exactly what happened.

Rookies often struggle. And then they improve. Such might happen to Robinson, prior injury or not.

A......men

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Mr. Goat, I respectfully offer that you missed my point entirely. The point was that you cannot judge a player, for good or for ill, based on one play. Yet you did just this in a post above.

Further, you are forgetting that Robinson was a rookie. Did you know that Santana Moss caught only two passes as a rookie? Based on his rookie production, it would have been "absurd" to think that Moss could be a viable #1 receiver. Yet that is exactly what happened.

Rookies often struggle. And then they improve. Such might happen to Robinson, prior injury or not.

Was Tana in the discussion to replace a HOFer for his 2nd season?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Was Tana in the discussion to replace a HOFer for his 2nd season?

The question isn't who will replace a HoFer, because only another HoFer could do that, and that is a ridiculously high standard.

The question is, "Can Robinson play at a reasonably high level in Fletch's spot?" In answer to this question, none of us can be 100% certain that he will. But none of us, including you, can be 100% certain that he won't. And no one should judge the answer based on one play.

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by Lotus

The question isn't who will replace a HoFer, because only another HoFer could do that, and that is a ridiculously high standard.

The question is, "Can Robinson play at a reasonably high level in Fletch's spot?" In answer to this question, none of us can be 100% certain that he will. But none of us, including you, can be 100% certain that he won't. And no one should judge the answer based on one play.

Furthermore, lets call a spade a spade, Fletcher was not playing at HOF status the last few years. He was an above average linebacker (looking specifically at his play). I'm not sure what Robinson is/isnt, but for me the worry isn't replacing Fletcher on the field. Its the locker room leader he is that is my bigger concern.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Furthermore, lets call a spade a spade, Fletcher was not playing at HOF status the last few years. He was an above average linebacker (looking specifically at his play). I'm not sure what Robinson is/isnt, but for me the worry isn't replacing Fletcher on the field. Its the locker room leader he is that is my bigger concern.

Well said.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Furthermore, lets call a spade a spade, Fletcher was not playing at HOF status the last few years. He was an above average linebacker (looking specifically at his play). I'm not sure what Robinson is/isnt, but for me the worry isn't replacing Fletcher on the field. Its the locker room leader he is that is my bigger concern.

Really if you look at his stats he looks pretty good.

Ranking in tackles

2012 8th but no one close to his number of tackles had 5 ints
2011 1st
2010 7th
2009 2nd
2008 & 2007 6th

Also if you look at the other players in the top 10 in tackles their names come and go but Fletcher has been consistent over the years.