Around the NFL Free Agency Thread 2013

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by donofriose

The Seahawks probably did not see anyone of value in this year's draft in the first round. They have been trying to get a big play receiver the past couple of years and have missed out, second round and possibly a third round pick is what I would have given up but if you are going to trade a 1st round draft pick this is the year to do it. Honestly I would take Harvin over every receiver the Redskins currently have on their roster.

Boldin was a great pickup for the 49ers. Crabtree, Davis, Boldin, their OLine, and their running backs. I do not see anyone stopping that offense. Especially with Kapernick looking more and more like the real deal. Of course their defense took a huge step back mainly due to Justin Smith being injured but the man is turning 34 and when you are that old injuries have a way of lingering more often that not. But the NFC West should still run through them but I think it will be a lot closer than it was last year. Seahawks have an excellent chance of winning that division with the Rams creeping up. Cardinals will always miss Kurt Warner.

Its still a lot to give up for a player. Just because this ''isn't a good year for first rounders'' doesn't mean there are no players you could have gotten at other positions in the first or stockpile picks. Or perhaps they could have made another reach and gotten a 2nd round guy in the first again (Bruce Irvin example).

Rich Eisen pointed out that the last 3 WR trades involving first rounders have been awful (Peerless Price, Roy Williams, Deion Branch). Add to that that Percy Harvin has yet to play a full season in the NFL, suffers from migraines, wants Calvin Johnson money, and couldn't even get along with Leslie Frazier, and IMO you have a trade that has more bust than boom.

Also Ed Reed to San Fran; you heard it here first.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Its still a lot to give up for a player. Just because this ''isn't a good year for first rounders'' doesn't mean there are no players you could have gotten at other positions in the first or stockpile picks. Or perhaps they could have made another reach and gotten a 2nd round guy in the first again (Bruce Irvin example).

Rich Eisen pointed out that the last 3 WR trades involving first rounders have been awful (Peerless Price, Roy Williams, Deion Branch). Add to that that Percy Harvin has yet to play a full season in the NFL, suffers from migraines, wants Calvin Johnson money, and couldn't even get along with Leslie Frazier, and IMO you have a trade that has more bust than boom.

Also Ed Reed to San Fran; you heard it here first.

Or PFT

Speculation mounts that Ed Reed will be a 49er | ProFootballTalk

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Or PFT

Speculation mounts that Ed Reed will be a 49er | ProFootballTalk

LOL!

Or ESPN

OR CNN

LOL!

That made me laugh. CB59 you are such a insider; SS don't ever come back.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by mredskins

LOL!

Or ESPN

OR CNN

LOL!

That made me laugh. CB59 you are such a insider; SS don't ever come back.

Everyone is an insider apparently.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Or PFT

Speculation mounts that Ed Reed will be a 49er | ProFootballTalk

I'm saying it will happen not could happen. Definitive statement to speculation.

Heres another Victor Cruz to Minnesota

[MTK]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I'm saying it will happen not could happen. Definitive statement to speculation

Ok, it wasn't clear, seemed that you were calling that shot on your own.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I'm saying it will happen not could happen. Definitive statement to speculation.

Heres another Victor Cruz to Minnesota

Rams and Vikings after Cruz reportedly.

Think about this...us trading all of those picks in the RGIII deal to the Rams just might enable them to steal the Giants' best offensive weapon...helping us. Beautiful.


I'd LOVE for Mara to lose his best offensive player.

Cruz>Nicks and they're already paying Nicks huge dollars...Cruz is going to want to, and deserved to be paid more. Eli's contract is going to be like a cap penalty for Mara.

Same with Baltimore and Flacco...he doesn't deserve anywhere near that money, but it's tough to negotiate against him right after the SB win.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Rams and Vikings after Cruz reportedly.

Think about this...us trading all of those picks in the RGIII deal to the Rams just might enable them to steal the Giants' best offensive weapon...helping us. Beautiful.


I'd LOVE for Mara to lose his best offensive player.

Cruz>Nicks and they're already paying Nicks huge dollars...Cruz is going to want to, and deserved to be paid more. Eli's contract is going to be like a cap penalty for Mara.

Same with Baltimore and Flacco...he doesn't deserve anywhere near that money, but it's tough to negotiate against him right after the SB win.

Exactly and I mean if Cruz leaves the division, then our CB/S need becomes a little less valuable, since Cruz was the guy we played twice last year who single handedly won the giants the game. It turns into worry about Dez and Nicks and Maybe DeSean Jax if healthy. Really we just need a number 1 CB and literally almost any safety not named Madieu, Cruz goes, and our secondary and defense just got that much better.

[NC_Skins]

Dan Graziano ‏@espn_nfceast

Cowboys announce that Anthony Spencer signed his franchise tender, as expected.


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Laugh if you want, but don't expect any bigger news than that from the Cowboys today.




Nice. No moves by the Cowboys. Stay shitty my friends.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Exactly and I mean if Cruz leaves the division, then our CB/S need becomes a little less valuable, since Cruz was the guy we played twice last year who single handedly won the giants the game. It turns into worry about Dez and Nicks and Maybe DeSean Jax if healthy. Really we just need a number 1 CB and literally almost any safety not named Madieu, Cruz goes, and our secondary and defense just got that much better.

CB59! Yo! Anymore scoop on that Portis-Bailey trade? One of my sources says we are throwing in a draft pick too...crazy sh*t if that happens.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by mredskins

CB59! Yo! Anymore scoop on that Portis-Bailey trade? One of my sources says we are throwing in a draft pick too...crazy sh*t if that happens.

Poor attempt at making a joke

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Its still a lot to give up for a player. Just because this ''isn't a good year for first rounders'' doesn't mean there are no players you could have gotten at other positions in the first or stockpile picks. Or perhaps they could have made another reach and gotten a 2nd round guy in the first again (Bruce Irvin example).

Rich Eisen pointed out that the last 3 WR trades involving first rounders have been awful (Peerless Price, Roy Williams, Deion Branch). Add to that that Percy Harvin has yet to play a full season in the NFL, suffers from migraines, wants Calvin Johnson money, and couldn't even get along with Leslie Frazier, and IMO you have a trade that has more bust than boom.

Also Ed Reed to San Fran; you heard it here first.

True, but many more examples of 1st or 2nd round WR busts. Your blind if you cant see how this makes perfect sense for Seattle. That offense needs a play maker to compliment Wilson. Why not surround him with one? Not too many potential playmakers in the league like Harvin. PR/KR, WR and RB...he does it all. Is there a risk? OF COURSE, there always is with talent like this. Was there a risk with RG3, OF COURSE, there always is with talent like this.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Its still a lot to give up for a player. Just because this ''isn't a good year for first rounders'' doesn't mean there are no players you could have gotten at other positions in the first or stockpile picks. Or perhaps they could have made another reach and gotten a 2nd round guy in the first again (Bruce Irvin example).

Rich Eisen pointed out that the last 3 WR trades involving first rounders have been awful (Peerless Price, Roy Williams, Deion Branch). Add to that that Percy Harvin has yet to play a full season in the NFL, suffers from migraines, wants Calvin Johnson money, and couldn't even get along with Leslie Frazier, and IMO you have a trade that has more bust than boom.

Also Ed Reed to San Fran; you heard it here first.

Seeing as how Bruce Irvin had a better season than a lot of the other first round guys, I guess it was not a reach after all and maybe the Seahawks just had a better scouting report on him than anyone else. I'm sure they don't regret drafting him over Nick Perry, Ingram, McClellin, or Coples who were pass rushers who were supposed to be drafted higher than him. They obviously made the right choice in reference to Irvin.

What I am saying is if you are going to trade a 1st round pick, this is the year to do it. It is not easy to trade down and stockpile picks. Otherwise everyone would have 10 picks every year. I guess we will have to see with Percy Harvin. He was an MVP candidate at one time this year but the injuries are an obvious concern. But I believe it will work out for the Seahawks more than it will for the Vikings.