Replacement refs: The story the NFL wants to keep quiet

[MTK]

Hello ref, get between them and break that shit up

jesus

[Slingin Sammy 33]

The NFL Replacement Ref Audit - WSJ.com

[Daseal]

I will admit, my opinion has changed slightly after watching the last skins game. Mostly, I don't have an issue with replacement officials. If they're a little slower or make some mistakes here and there -- I understand. Especially as they become accustomed to the speed and difference in the NFL. I don't think their calls are any better/worse than normal refs. The normal refs made a lot of mistakes also, let's not act as if they were flawless. The new refs DO need to control the games. I'm sure that will be a point of emphasis after this week. Be more aware of extracurricular stuff and don't be afraid to throw the flag. Slow down any cheap hits, chippyness, etc.

Here's the thing, the amount of money regular refs want, to me, is ridiculous. This isn't their full time job and they spend ~4 hours a week working -- yet they want a pension? How many of us work 10x (or more) than that per week and aren't given a pension. We have to deal with a slight decrease in officiating skill until they get some practice -- but I understand the NFLs stance. I rarely side with the NFL anymore, but I do in this case. Last week was ridiculous and I expect to see improvement over the next few weeks, especially with keeping control of the game.

[punch it in]

Where was all this talk when we won? Lol. We need the real refs back for the integrity of the game. Can we leave wins and losses out of it though. We could and have been on both ends of the bogus calls. For three years we have been blaming our close losses on orakpo being held but not getting the call. These refs are garbage that is clear but they are horrible for BOTH teams.

[MTK]

I didn't think the refs were as bad in week 1 as they were last week.

My biggest problem is how they have no control. The players know this and keep pushing things to see how much they can get away with.

Plus there's no consistency. With the regular refs sure they weren't perfect, but with the replacement refs they call things they shouldn't and miss the obvious calls. The speed of the game is clearly too much for them and I don't see them improving much in the short term. The regular refs have been doing this for years. It's not something you just get up to speed with in a matter of weeks.

[punch it in]

Someone on sirius just compared the situation to kids in school taking advantage of a substitute teacher cus they no they can get away with more. So true.

[NC_Skins]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/84...s-all-32-teams


Really NFL? Really? Maybe you should be contacting the refs telling them to control the game instead of letting it become a thugfest.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

NFL issues on-field conduct warning to owners, general managers, coaches of all 32 teams - ESPN


Really NFL? Really? Maybe you should be contacting the refs telling them to control the game instead of letting it become a thugfest.

I have to believe that they are sending that out to the replacement refs too. The game yesterday went smoothly, and after 1 pushing match, which I expected to spark many more, the teams seemed to settle down. I don't know if the league guy who's helping the refs went to both teams and said something or if the players just chilled, but I tend to think that somehow the refs got the point across that they weren't going to accept thuggery.

I hope so atleast.

[MTK]

I'd bet it's only going to get worse as the players keep pushing the envelope.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I'd bet it's only going to get worse as the players keep pushing the envelope.

I'm a little worried for our players' safety this week. The Bengals have plenty of thugs on their team.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I'd bet it's only going to get worse as the players keep pushing the envelope.

I don't think so. I'll bet there has been a memo sent out to the teams that any more nonsense and ejections/fines will be coming down. The NFL has I'm sure told the refs to start throwing people out that even seem like they're pushing the envelope.

[Chico23231]

Check the clip in middle of page


They're Getting Worse, Not Better: Here Are The 28 Worst Replacement Official Mistakes From Week 2

[Chico23231]

These greedy ass owners and the greatly hypocritical Goondell administration is to blame folks. Just take a look at the numbers and what the Refs are asking for...its absolutely redunkelous.

[CRedskinsRule]

Well the real refs are asking for a full pension plan - as a part time employees! who else in the US has that now. Take a 401K, enjoy the extra money in your pocket and get back on the field.

That said, seems like they could put in a grandfather clause that allows current refs with more than x years to keep the full pension, then phase it out as new refs are hired. Crazy the two sides can't agree on something.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Well the real refs are asking for a full pension plan - as a part time employees! who else in the US has that now. Take a 401K, enjoy the extra money in your pocket and get back on the field.

That said, seems like they could put in a grandfather clause that allows current refs with more than x years to keep the full pension, then phase it out as new refs are hired. Crazy the two sides can't agree on something.

You mean the same pension plan they've gotten from the league since the 70s?

Bingo!!!!, 9 billion industry a year. It should be a going forward action with new hires, you cant switch it up now.