Cousins to start 2015 Season

[SirLK26]

Griffin ran read option plays last year. Please stop saying he won't run them, that is false.

[SolidSnake84]

A comprehensive history of how Washington ruined Robert Griffin III's body, mind and spirit - SBNation.com

This is a good read, but long. This might be the best article I have ever read on RG3's career with the Redskins, which now appears to be in retrospect. There are cool embedded GIF's of RG3's various injuries, and honestly, upon watching them again, were quite gruesome.

His future seemed so immense in 2012, but it was obvious that the knee injury, and concussions are most likely career-ending in the sense that he most likely will never, ever, be anything close to what he once was. Not even a shadow. I think his best bet is to get a fresh start somewhere else, as a backup where he can learn the fine points of the game, and perhaps some team will give him a shot again to start. I just think while only 25, his body has suffered terrible injuries and is no longer up to NFL duty...

[NC_Skins]

I don't think anybody gets "riled" up over the non-football stuff, but I have to disagree with anybody's notion that it doesn't matter. Au contraire. When you lose or don't perform, it does matter. It matters. Which is where we've been at since the end of 2012. Non-performing. In the grand scheme of it all, all the inspirational quotes, throwing teammates under bus, social media faux pas doesn't do any "harm" to anybody and it doesn't get in the way of the product on the field come Sunday on a team aspect.

However, let's look a bit deeper and realize while all this other non-football stuff is going on, the more important part of this is being neglected. The football side. So here we have our "franchise QB" is so concerned with his image, that he takes the time at 1am to "set the record" straight with the public. You know, it's quite a shame he didn't undertake his film study with such determination. Hell, while he's thumbing through Instagram liking pictures of himself, he could be watching film and realizing why he's missing pass protection schemes and delayed blitzes.

A few said early on that all those commercials and crap he was doing, was time that could be spent bettering himself as a football player. Yet, here we are 4 years later, and one of the two drafted QBs is known as a film junkie and the other a gym junkie. Which one do you think is starting for 2015? Should he capitalize on his fame and cash in? Sure, if you want to think short term. So he's made 20-30 million, when in reality he could possibly have been making 130-140 million had he focused more on being the passing QB he always talked about. I think he sold himself short on that lottery ticket.

Robert's made a conscious decision to build his "image" to being a star, instead of actually honing his skills to actually be one. Kirk went out and studied the film, knows the offense up and down, and knows what to do out of the field. Robert on the other hand doesn't. He's missing pass protection schemes and not seeing blitzes that should have been picked up at the line of scrimmage. These kinds of things you learn from film study. Period.

Also, many of those social faux pas done in interviews/instagram/facebook/twitter tell us a great deal about this individual. It tells us he's insecure and it also tells us he doesn't learn from mistakes because he continues to make them over and over again.(granted he's been taken out of context as well at times) If the guy doesn't get it when it comes to social settings, what makes anybody think he'll get complex defenses?

So keep saying it doesn't matter, but the reality of it is that it does. Very few neglect the cerebral side of being a QB and have a long career. This applies to many QBs that have come into this league, and not just Robert.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by kingj

Ok so bottom line you don't feel Gruden is on the hot seat regardless of performance?

If he doesn't get to 7 wins after all the talk he's done himself, then yeah I believe he's gone. I'm not pro-Griffin in case you are reading it that way.

I simply see both Griffin and Gruden not with the organization at start of 2016 season. It's not like Gruden is blameless in this circus. He has made his share of mistakes and this is his 2nd chance with his preferred qb just like last year was Griffin's 2nd chance until injuries, performance and his refusal to run R/O (whether accurate or not) did him in.

I would really like to see some continuity. I think there is some inherent value in not changing up every few years if you have a talented staff.

Gruden's offense in Cincy put up some great numbers over several seasons but he had a certain player type to work with. He had an outstanding offensive line, huge receivers and two big TE's that could catch and block. Look at the stats he put up with Andy Dalton. That type of offensive success in the same division with the Ravens and Steelers is an accomplishment.

I think Gruden has upside. If we are moving to a power blocking line and McLovin's prototypical draft pick is what Gruden has already had success with I don't want to move on too early.

Not that Gruden is Marty Shottenheimer, I just don't want to bring in another Steve Spurrier after two years.

Last year seemed like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. I'm for squaring up the hole and seeing what happens.

As for mistakes, he hasn't repeated the same bone head mistakes he made as a rookie head coach. New QB coach, no delay of game penalties, and has handled the media in the middle of a shit storm ok.

To be clear, unless there is a head coaching candidate that you just can't turn down (if there was, he wouldn't come to Washington anyway), then stay the course.

[SolidSnake84]

Speaking of social media:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...daniel-snyder/

What do you think? Is RG3 innocent on this one?

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

I would really like to see some continuity. I think there is some inherent value in not changing up every few years if you have a talented staff.

Gruden's offense in Cincy put up some great numbers over several seasons but he had a certain player type to work with. He had an outstanding offensive line, huge receivers and two big TE's that could catch and block. Look at the stats he put up with Andy Dalton. That type of offensive success in the same division with the Ravens and Steelers is an accomplishment.

I think Gruden has upside. If we are moving to a power blocking line and McLovin's prototypical draft pick is what Gruden has already had success with I don't want to move on too early.

Not that Gruden is Marty Shottenheimer, I just don't want to bring in another Steve Spurrier after two years.

Last year seemed like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. I'm for squaring up the hole and seeing what happens.

As for mistakes, he hasn't repeated the same bone head mistakes he made as a rookie head coach. New QB coach, no delay of game penalties, and has handled the media in the middle of a shit storm ok.

To be clear, unless there is a head coaching candidate that you just can't turn down (if there was, he wouldn't come to Washington anyway), then stay the course.

You know a buddy and I were talking the other night about all of the coaches that have came and went in Washington, so let me ask you....

What is the benefit of being HC with all that is known about ownership, etc.. Is it solely the money? I mean i have a hard time believing that the job is attractive with all the dysfunction, etc, knowing that he doesn't have final say on who plays, etc...

[kingj]

I would love for Gruden to succeed because it gets old with the dysfunction and coaching carousel.

I just think he has put himself in a tough situation with how he dealt with press last season. Maybe he recovers and we chalk it up to rookie coach mistakes, but I just see pressure on him to at least get to 6 wins. I would consider it passable if they are much more competitive (in close games) than last season.

[WillH]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Speaking of social media:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...daniel-snyder/

What do you think? Is RG3 innocent on this one?

i have a few questions:

Who's intern? His? The Redskins'? If it's the Redskins', why didn't they "set the record straight?" Was this intern fired? If it's his . . . WTF? Where do I get my intern? Was this intern trying to get him in trouble, or just stupid? Why the hell didn't he delete his account anyways? Or why not suspend the account until he started winning? Finally, who the fuck cares anyways?

[SmootSmack]

When and where did someone suggest the decision to bench Rob was based in racism?


(back to my cave)

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

When and where did someone suggest the decision to bench Rob was based in racism?


(back to my cave)

I believe those dolts on "The Man Cave" brought up race during hour 2 this morning.

The Man Cave | ESPN 980

The podcast is there. I had to skip around that segment because most of it hurts my head. I think I may have listened to about 3 mins of that entire thing. I'm pissed you guys actually made my curiosity research that shit..

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I believe those dolts on "The Man Cave" brought up race during hour 2 this morning.

The Man Cave | ESPN 980

The podcast is there. I had to skip around that segment because most of it hurts my head. I think I may have listened to about 3 mins of that entire thing. I'm pissed you guys actually made my curiosity research that shit..

What I heard there was "is race a factor?" And 3 of 4 fans called in to say basically no. Then Mike Jones also added "no"

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What I heard there was "is race a factor?" And 3 of 4 fans called in to say basically no. Then Mike Jones also added "no"

I thought you were going back to your cave???

[RobH4413]

I just listened to ten minutes of the man cave and now I want to jump out my window.

[WillH]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

I just listened to ten minutes of the man cave and now I want to jump out my window.

Good thing caves have no windows.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I thought you were going back to your cave???

I'm in my mancave