Campbell's numbers dont lie

[SirClintonPortis]

With the way things are going, Campbell can throw 47 TDs and the team would only average 21 points a game.

[TheSmurfs22]

I think Campbell has done well, a few hiccups but what qb has not had them. Lets face it, whoever is the QB of the Washington Redskins is either going to be the Hero or Zero, that is just the way it is in DC.

[Skinny Tee]

Eagles say goodbye to Jeff Garcia | ProFootballTalk.com

Do you guys envision a senario in which Garcia comes to DC if there is a shakeup at QB this season?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Eagles say goodbye to Jeff Garcia | ProFootballTalk.com

Do you guys envision a senario in which Garcia comes to DC if there is a shakeup at QB this season?

No. What would be the point?

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Eagles say goodbye to Jeff Garcia | ProFootballTalk.com

Do you guys envision a senario in which Garcia comes to DC if there is a shakeup at QB this season?

Would not entirely surprise me, since we're only carrying 2 QBs. If Campbell were to go down, I'm sure they'd consider it. He is a West Coast guy, after all.

[warriorzpath]

He could have won 2 games THIS season easily if he made as few as a couple of plays. He's the freaking leader of this team, so take responsibility for it.

[warriorzpath]

The Patriots are Tom Brady's team, so if the team sucks then guess what - Tom Brady is sucking this season too. Because he is the leader of that team. New Orleans is kicking ass this season and guess what - Brees is also kicking ass this season.

It all starts with the quarterback. Everyone else can make it as complicated as taxes and rocket science, but it's simple. Foremost, on-the-field performance: the responsibility belongs to the quarterback.

[Rajmahal33]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

The Patriots are Tom Brady's team, so if the team sucks then guess what - Tom Brady is sucking this season too. Because he is the leader of that team. New Orleans is kicking ass this season and guess what - Brees is also kicking ass this season.

It all starts with the quarterback. Everyone else can make it as complicated as taxes and rocket science, but it's simple. Foremost, on-the-field performance: the responsibility belongs to the quarterback.

I have to agree with you on the Brees point...and what kills me was that he was available for Dannyboy to make a move for him way back when. I was one of the ppl who was screaming for the skins to go after him.

I don't get how danny boy spends so much money on other positions and hasn't really thrown much at the QB position except maybe Brad Johnson (i don't count Jeff George or Mark Brunell cuz they were in the twilight of their careers)

I think coming into this debate, i was close to neutral on JC and leaning towards letting him finish out the season as the starter and see what he can do...During the course of the debate and seeing how rabidly ppl are defending him & attackign him (with stats, intangibles, empirical data) one thing seems very apparent to me. That is, that JC seems to be a very polarizing figure. That's a pretty telling thing to me. It tells me that a house divided against itself can never stand. It tells me that, though they may not say it publicly, I'm sure plenty of ppl in the organization and the locker room are having this same debate (perhaps in their heads). To me, that's a nightmare and the worst thing to happen to a team. If they can't trust their leader on the field, then the leader needs to end that debate immediately or go.

I really want JC to do well and prove me wrong, but unfortunately I'm thinking he isnt going to end this debate by the bye week and probably not by the end of the season. I'm thinking at the end of the season it might be time for us to find ourselves a new leader.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by Rajmahal33

I have to agree with you on the Brees point...and what kills me was that he was available for Dannyboy to make a move for him way back when. I was one of the ppl who was screaming for the skins to go after him.

I don't get how danny boy spends so much money on other positions and hasn't really thrown much at the QB position except maybe Brad Johnson (i don't count Jeff George or Mark Brunell cuz they were in the twilight of their careers)

I think coming into this debate, i was close to neutral on JC and leaning towards letting him finish out the season as the starter and see what he can do...During the course of the debate and seeing how rabidly ppl are defending him & attackign him (with stats, intangibles, empirical data) one thing seems very apparent to me. That is, that JC seems to be a very polarizing figure. That's a pretty telling thing to me. It tells me that a house divided against itself can never stand. It tells me that, though they may not say it publicly, I'm sure plenty of ppl in the organization and the locker room are having this same debate (perhaps in their heads). To me, that's a nightmare and the worst thing to happen to a team. If they can't trust their leader on the field, then the leader needs to end that debate immediately or go.

I really want JC to do well and prove me wrong, but unfortunately I'm thinking he isnt going to end this debate by the bye week and probably not by the end of the season. I'm thinking at the end of the season it might be time for us to find ourselves a new leader.

You know I was with you with just observing and seeing how he played, too. It's good to know that someone else is thinking along the same lines as me as far as seeing how this team needs to be led by the quarterback. I just want Campbell to just lead this team and take it to where he wants to go. This team is just crying for a leader - especially now.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

The Patriots are Tom Brady's team, so if the team sucks then guess what - Tom Brady is sucking this season too. Because he is the leader of that team. New Orleans is kicking ass this season and guess what - Brees is also kicking ass this season.

It all starts with the quarterback. Everyone else can make it as complicated as taxes and rocket science, but it's simple. Foremost, on-the-field performance: the responsibility belongs to the quarterback.

I'm getting tired of making the same points, but the main reason the Patriots don't look like the dominant team of previous seasons is because their defense is not nearly what it used to be. And Brees kicked ass in 2007, but the Saint went 7-9.

If the quarterback is the only player that matters, why are there 52 other guys on the roster? If it was as simple as picking the perfect quarterback, you wouldn't have head coaches putting in 90 hour weeks, or month long training camps to whip 90ish guys into shape to fill out 53 spots. Your oversimplification of the game of football is ridiculous to say the least.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

I'm getting tired of making the same points, but the main reason the Patriots don't look like the dominant team of previous seasons is because their defense is not nearly what it used to be. And Brees kicked ass in 2007, but the Saint went 7-9.

If the quarterback is the only player that matters, why are there 52 other guys on the roster? If it was as simple as picking the perfect quarterback, you wouldn't have head coaches putting in 90 hour weeks, or month long training camps to whip 90ish guys into shape to fill out 53 spots. Your oversimplification of the game of football is ridiculous to say the least.

Who is the Saints defensive coordinator?

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

I'm getting tired of making the same points, but the main reason the Patriots don't look like the dominant team of previous seasons is because their defense is not nearly what it used to be. And Brees kicked ass in 2007, but the Saint went 7-9.

If the quarterback is the only player that matters, why are there 52 other guys on the roster? If it was as simple as picking the perfect quarterback, you wouldn't have head coaches putting in 90 hour weeks, or month long training camps to whip 90ish guys into shape to fill out 53 spots. Your oversimplification of the game of football is ridiculous to say the least.

Quarterback is not the only position that matters, but it's the most important. And traditionally the assumed leader of the team. It is especially important with a team like the redskins; a team that has no other leader in sight.

Even if Brady and Brees plays well, if their team consistently doesn't do well then it reflects on the quarterback (fair or unfair). Brees was the leader of New Orleans in 2007 when they went 7-9, so Brees didn't do so well in 2007 in my eyes.

Part of the quarterback's job is to not only throw the ball well, but also makes sure that everyone else is doing their job. That's what a leader is supposed to.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

Quarterback is not the only position that matters, but it's the most important. And traditionally the assumed leader of the team. It is especially important with a team like the redskins; a team that has no other leader in sight.

Even if the Brady and Brees plays well, if their team consistently doesn't do well then it reflects on the quarterback (fair or unfair). Brees was the leader of New Orleans in 2007 when they went 7-9, so Brees didn't do so well in 2007 in my eyes.

Part of the quarterback's job is to not only throw the ball well, but also makes sure that everyone else is doing their job. That's what a leader is supposed to.

Kinda feel like your are contradicting yourselves on a few of your points.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

Kinda feel like your are contradicting yourselves on a few of your points.

Maybe. but most important point- the quarterback is the assumed leader; campbell is not leading the redskins.

[skins89moss]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

I'm getting tired of making the same points, but the main reason the Patriots don't look like the dominant team of previous seasons is because their defense is not nearly what it used to be. And Brees kicked ass in 2007, but the Saint went 7-9.

If the quarterback is the only player that matters, why are there 52 other guys on the roster? If it was as simple as picking the perfect quarterback, you wouldn't have head coaches putting in 90 hour weeks, or month long training camps to whip 90ish guys into shape to fill out 53 spots. Your oversimplification of the game of football is ridiculous to say the least.

Good responds Southpaw. Fans must remember that football is a team sport where 11 players have to be on the same page for plays to work. I player can kill a good play by either ( penality, missed assignment , bad pass , drop ball, and fumble). The Brett Farve game winning TD vs 49ers would not have happenend if his line did not block for him, or the WR catching the ball. So many things must go right for the play to be successful.