Riggins Quote:

[jbcjr14]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Vinny's just a monkey. He heads up scouting and presents it to the coaches. His recommendations mean little to the coaches. They make up their own minds.

I agree with Riggo's comment, but I don't think the Skins are trusting him to do much more than order lunch as it is. So it's a non-issue to me.

Damn, a rich monkey though!

[Riggo44]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Vinny isn't the GM, so what's the point of cracking back on him??

I agree. John Riggins was my absolute favorite player growing up. But I haven't heard him say anything positive about the Redskins in a long long time. I really don't know why he is so bitter. But I do know I really don't care what John Riggins has to say anymore.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Riggo44

I agree. John Riggins was my absolute favorite player growing up. But I haven't heard him say anything positive about the Redskins in a long long time. I really don't know why he is so bitter. But I do know I really don't care what John Riggins has to say anymore.

there hasnt been a lot of positive things to say over the last 8 years.

[Riggo44]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

there hasnt been a lot of positive things to say over the last 8 years.

True. But when I was in D.C last year for the Cowboys game all I remember Riggins saying is how tired Gibbs looked. And he was so concerned that he couldn't make it through the season. And that was in like week 3! He's just rubbed me the wrong way the last few times I have heard or read His quotes. I still love the guy as a Redskin. As you might have noticed with my Screen name. I Just think he sucks as a commentator.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Riggo44

True. But when I was in D.C last year for the Cowboys game all I remember Riggins saying is how tired Gibbs looked. And he was so concerned that he couldn't make it through the season. And that was in like week 3! He's just rubbed me the wrong way the last few times I have heard or read His quotes. I still love the guy as a Redskin. As you might have noticed with my Screen name. I Just think he sucks as a commentator.

Riggins is just one of those guys that he says what he feels whether its good or bad. He was like that as a player and is definately like that now. I think its refreshing to have someone who is a skins fan but doesn't drink the cool aid until its coming out their ears. Personally, I think he doesn't like Danny Boy or Vinny, which leads to some of comments.

[bedlamVR]

Personally I don't think Vinny has done that bad a job on talent evaluation and preparing in information for the coaches to digest . In the one year he was fired and Marty took over we all remember the excellent personel decisions that were made then, who can forget the perenial pro bowler Kevin Locket or indead the waste of space players he ditched like the last Dlineman to get over 10 sacks in a year (Marco Coleman), or oneof the best pass catching FBs in the game (Larry Centers) but he did better in the draft though picking up Rod Gardner, Fred Smoot, Sage Rosenfals, Mario Monds and Danerian Macants, none of which are with the team and I think only Sage is actually on an active roster .

Just for comparison though we are often told how much our drafts suck and how bad we are (in general) by our own fans here is something taken from a Philly paper

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/13537336.htm
Struggles with finding players in the draft
Other than McNabb, the Eagles have little to show for the 1999, 2000 and 2001 drafts. And 2003 isn't looking great, either.Corey Simon (first round, 2000) is gone. So are, among others, Freddie Mitchell (first round, 2001), Barry Gardner (second round, '99), John Welbourn (fourth round, '99), Bobbie Williams (second round, 2000), Quinton Caver (second round, 2001), and Derrick Burgess (third round, 2001).
In fact, from those 1999-2001 drafts, the Eagles currently have McNabb, injured wideout Todd Pinkston (second round, 2000) and injured running back Correll Buckhalter (fourth round, 2001). In a league where success flows from good drafting, the picks from those years should be forming the team's foundation right now, its nexus of late-20s players in their primes. And all that remains from the 2003 draft are injured defensive end Jerome McDougle (first round), tight end L.J. Smith (second round) and wideout Billy McMullen (third round).

[MTK]

Originally Posted by bedlamVR

Personally I don't think Vinny has done that bad a job on talent evaluation and preparing in information for the coaches to digest . In the one year he was fired and Marty took over we all remember the excellent personel decisions that were made then, who can forget the perenial pro bowler Kevin Locket or indead the waste of space players he ditched like the last Dlineman to get over 10 sacks in a year (Marco Coleman), or oneof the best pass catching FBs in the game (Larry Centers) but he did better in the draft though picking up Rod Gardner, Fred Smoot, Sage Rosenfals, Mario Monds and Danerian Macants, none of which are with the team and I think only Sage is actually on an active roster.

I think you're giving way too much credit to Vinny for any of our "misses" over the last few years.

Yes he's been part of the process but when Marty took over he canned Vinny and Marty alone was responsible for personnel. So if you don't like that year's crop of talent there's only Marty to blame.

[bedlamVR]

That was kind of the point I was making that Vinny gets way too much blame but actually he isn't doing to baad of a job . Hacket (sp?) at the Eagles is hailed as a guru but I am betting the hitting averages of the two personel men are not totally disimilar .

[jgalecpa]

Loosen up, Sandy Baby!