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Old 06-06-2006, 07:35 PM   #1
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Re: Time for some False Hope from Peter King

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You guys really do give Peter King more credit than he deserves. Seriously, he isn't THE guy that's keeping Monk out. There are other voters who don't see Monk fit to be in the hall. I don't agree with it but that's life. The biggest issue I see with the whole thing is that people make it a bigger deal than it aught to be. Maybe it's just something to talk about in the offseason when news is slow?
i know this is a rumor, but i heard that Peter King does have a big influence on some HOF voters, and when he doesn't think that Monk should be in, the other voters use his opinion to help their vote as well.
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Old 06-06-2006, 08:34 PM   #2
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You guys really do give Peter King more credit than he deserves. Seriously, he isn't THE guy that's keeping Monk out. There are other voters who don't see Monk fit to be in the hall. I don't agree with it but that's life. The biggest issue I see with the whole thing is that people make it a bigger deal than it aught to be. Maybe it's just something to talk about in the offseason when news is slow?
Peter King has a lot more influence than you give him credit for, as I detailed here.

The guy is alnost certainly the biggest name in the room when the voting committee meets. (See this list.) That gives him an enormous amount of sway with the other voters on issues they don't feel passionate about. He's managing editor for HBO's Inside the NFL, and a senior writer for Sports Illustrated - the largest sports magazine in the world. If you don't think Bernie Miklasz of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch doesn't give Peter King's opinion a little more weight than that of whatever jerk-off they sent from Jacksonville, you should not be allowed to drive a car.

EDIT: It's come to my attention that Sam Kouvaris of WJXT-TV is not a jerk-off. He serves on the Board of Directors for several charities in North Florida, and annually hosts the Children's Miracle Network Broadcast in Jacksonville. Sam’s annual golf tournament is held each May and benefits Dreams Come True. He is also active at St. Josephs Parish. He also graduated from the University of Maryland, and we all know no one bad ever came from there. Other than that, I stand by my assessment.
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Old 06-06-2006, 08:52 PM   #3
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Re: Time for some False Hope from Peter King

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Peter King has a lot more influence than you give him credit for, as I detailed here.

The guy is alnost certainly the biggest name in the room when the voting committee meets. (See this list.) That gives him an enormous amount of sway with the other voters on issues they don't feel passionate about. He's managing editor for HBO's Inside the NFL, and a senior writer for Sports Illustrated - the largest sports magazine in the world. If you don't think Bernie Miklasz of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch doesn't give Peter King's opinion a little more weight than that of whatever jerk-off they sent from Jacksonville, you should not be allowed to drive a car.
Does Peter King feed them all? Cuts their paychecks? I mean, come on, unless Peter King has the power to throw someone out of the committee I don't see why anyone in that committee wouldn't vote the way they felt! If you really think that being a managing Editor of Inside the NFL with it's measly audience and a senior "FOOTBALL" writer at SI gives him that much power and cred I think perhaps you need to get your head checked.

Cut the conspiracy bullshit folks. Monk simply isn't getting in because not enough of the committee members think he deserves it or have their own agenda. It's as simple as that.

p.s. Len "Fat F*ck" Pasquarelli is on there and you know that bastard is a hatter.
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Old 06-07-2006, 01:26 AM   #4
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Does Peter King feed them all? Cuts their paychecks? I mean, come on, unless Peter King has the power to throw someone out of the committee I don't see why anyone in that committee wouldn't vote the way they felt! If you really think that being a managing Editor of Inside the NFL with it's measly audience and a senior "FOOTBALL" writer at SI gives him that much power and cred I think perhaps you need to get your head checked.

Cut the conspiracy bullshit folks. Monk simply isn't getting in because not enough of the committee members think he deserves it or have their own agenda. It's as simple as that.

p.s. Len "Fat F*ck" Pasquarelli is on there and you know that bastard is a hatter.
It has been reported that King does in fact have a significant amunt of sway in the room. The way the process works is that the final 15 players are each presented and for the first few years of Monks eligibility the biggest voice of dissent was King. essentially he got up every time and railed until he got enough people to agree. Something tells me that almost any player could be kept out if one respected person made a strong and passionate enough argument to do so. Now he has brainwashed enough people that he no longer needs to rail every year. The process is screwy.
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Old 06-07-2006, 07:36 AM   #5
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It has been reported that King does in fact have a significant amunt of sway in the room. The way the process works is that the final 15 players are each presented and for the first few years of Monks eligibility the biggest voice of dissent was King. essentially he got up every time and railed until he got enough people to agree. Something tells me that almost any player could be kept out if one respected person made a strong and passionate enough argument to do so. Now he has brainwashed enough people that he no longer needs to rail every year. The process is screwy.
If that's the case then I hate King even more than I thought. How on earth could anyone have something against Art Monk? He was such a class act and his stats don't lie.
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Old 06-06-2006, 08:25 PM   #6
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Re: Time for some False Hope from Peter King

^^^ Yup. That is the problem.
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Old 06-06-2006, 09:49 PM   #7
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Re: Time for some False Hope from Peter King

Today's sportswriters are not going to keep Art Monk out of the Hall. I think and I hope. It just might take a few more years.
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Old 06-06-2006, 10:00 PM   #8
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Jerkoffs!
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Old 06-07-2006, 06:28 AM   #9
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Re: Time for some False Hope from Peter King

Does anyone have a list of hall of fame voters?
It's insane that he isn't in.
I will make the trip also when Monk gets in.
Like to see entire redskins organization try to get like 100,000 people to go.
Have to hold it at a speedway.
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Gonna be huge. Atleast in my heart. I saw Monk play almost every game. He didn't make shit for money and he gave his all every play without ever being a bitch like so many players in the league today. Went over the middle again and again. Let's all promise to take our families and all redskins gear to canton next year! I'm in. God bless Art Monk.
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Does anyone have a list of hall of fame voters?
http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/selectionprocess.jsp
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Old 06-07-2006, 09:26 AM   #11
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Re: Time for some False Hope from Peter King

At least he's willing to keep an open mind about it, that's all we can ask at this point.

Monk will get in eventually, the landslide of support is starting to build. I think that's something the Hall voters look for, are the fans passionate about a guy getting in.

I think they're starting to see that passion for Monk.
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At least he's willing to keep an open mind about it, that's all we can ask at this point.

Monk will get in eventually, the landslide of support is starting to build. I think that's something the Hall voters look for, are the fans passionate about a guy getting in.

I think they're starting to see that passion for Monk.
yeah, king cant live forever
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yeah, king cant live forever

You are right on! The phrase "Long live the King!" doesn't mean he will live forever.
The only king living forever, is the King of Kings! All the rest are in their grave.
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Re: Time for some False Hope from Peter King

Who cares about the HOF?

I have become so sick and tired of all of this nonsense. A group of fatass no-nothing sports writers don't have to validate your career to make you a success. Regardless of how those idiots (and others) feel, Monk was one of the greatest NFL players of ALL TIME.
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Who cares about the HOF?

I have become so sick and tired of all of this nonsense. A group of fatass no-nothing sports writers don't have to validate your career to make you a success. Regardless of how those idiots (and others) feel, Monk was one of the greatest NFL players of ALL TIME.
But...but...it's the Hall of FAME! If you want fame don't you have to be in the Hall of Fame? I mean the amount of fame you can get is much lower if you're only in the Kitchen of Fame, or the Bathroom of Fame. You gotta be in the HALL man, the Hall.
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