Peter King apology

MTK · 05-17-2004, 02:35 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong drkstar, but you are the one that got the ball rolling with this post:

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It is amazing to me that some of you nimwits think you know more about the pulse of the NFL then Peter King.

The man makes a living writing these columns and is profiled on HBO's Inside the NFL. And you Joe Potatohead from some beach town in Delaware know more about NFL football and/or Sean Taylor then he?!?

I mean, disagree if you want but to discredit his column like you know better then he... just who is the loser in that equation?!?

Pretty harsh and a little unnecessary if you ask me. But you did apologize so I give you credit for that.

But if you can't take some friendly ribbing over this than so be it, maybe it would be best if you don't post anymore like you said.

If you're gonna dish it out you have to expect some to come back your way.

BleedBurgundy · 05-17-2004, 02:50 PM

Does anyone else hear dueling banjo's starting up?

JoeRedskin · 05-17-2004, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

Does anyone else hear dueling banjo's starting up?

LOL

Better lock this one down.

Drkstar - as one of the "nimwits" and "pile on'ers" who questioned the legitimacy of King's first unsupported statment and took offense at the disrepect you showed (and, apparently, continue to show) to anyone who questioned that statement, I disagree with your conclusion that an apology is not due. Be a man and apologize for the "nimwits" remark.

BTW - I understood that you trusted King's opinion more so than others on this forum (and that you probably continue to do so). It was, however, the insulting manner in which you set forth this attitude that started the flame war and notched up the discussion.

Finally, the gratuitous digs at Smoot and Matty are just unneccessary. If they had been "self-rightously" moderating this forum, you would have been banned quite some time ago. You posts were not deleted, you were allowed to continue to post and you were simply asked to tone down your insults.

SmootSmack · 05-17-2004, 03:59 PM

No need for me to respond to Drkstar's latest comments, no time either...too busy being self-righteous. Henceforth I shall be referred to as Pope Smootsmack! Kiss my Ring!!!

As for everyone else, I would expect some of my opinions to be questioned just like I hope you expect some of yours to be questioned by me. In that same regard, we should question and debate what the paid media disseminates as well. That's the point of this forum after all isn't it? "Redskins Discussion for the Knowlegable Fan". If we all just agree with each other all the time we gain nothing from this forum and don't become any more knowlegeable than when we signed up. I don't know about the rest of you but since signing up for the warpath I feel like I've learned a lot more about the Redskins among many other things.

So yeah let's continue to debate and disagree but let's do it with tact and class.

JoeRedskin · 05-17-2004, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by smootsmack

So yeah let's continue to debate and disagree but let's do it with tact and class.

Tact and class?? Damn, I am screwed.

Drift Reality · 05-17-2004, 04:27 PM

Personally, I like the "righteous" moderation on this board.

There are so many BBS where the conversations become ridiculous and obscene arguments between people who have never or will never actually meet one another, and if they did, wouldn't say anything abrasive.

This is a well-balanced and clean BBS and I think the moderators do a fantastic job.

Daseal · 05-17-2004, 06:15 PM

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Tact and class?? Damn, I am screwed.

I'd say, Joe! Just kidding, you're one of my favorite sparring partners!

Drkstar - I hardly doubt Pope Smootsmack and King Matty the VIII are self-righteous. They let me speak my often times outlandish type of comments and even respect them by not bashing me TOO hard! I don't want you to stop posting, just watch the hostility. We all have one common denominator in mind, and that's the Redskins. I don't feel as if you should be so blatently hostile. We all get in heated arguments and say things we don't mean, but I feel if I've offended anyone I try to make it up to them if possible.

Not saying you should apologize, but your posts are normally well thought out and a good read, I just wish you could try to lose the hostility.

manicd · 05-17-2004, 07:32 PM

Yea, Daseal has a good point. If the mods were all bad, Daseal would be ripped on constantly. Who else has the nads to say they love(d) Spurrier. It would be boring if thier wasn't any differences here. And as stated in a previous post, you learn a lot more when you see other fans point of view. I don't know squat compared to most people on this board, so I love being educated on so many things.

bedlamVR · 05-17-2004, 07:43 PM

jeeze Drkstar and his ilk are like school on saturday ... they defend thier right to express an oppinion in however obnoxious way they want then when the counter argument is put across they stick thier hands over thier ears and retreat into thier caves..

Thing is peter king gets paid alot of money to check what he says at least has a touch ofthe truth ... like has been said though the most insulting thing is he thought Skins faithful would be rattled by unsubstantuated rumours...

If you cannot say anything nice y'know....

Daseal · 05-17-2004, 08:45 PM

Bedlam - he get's paid to try to break a story first. Being fans we want the inside scoop ASAP. He tries to do that, and when you go that route, you will fail from time to time.

hi-jinx · 05-17-2004, 09:06 PM

And not only that, Kingisn't so much a reporter in the MMQB as a columnist. He's there putting is opinion out. Hell if someone came to me personally and said that Sean Taylor didn't like the Skins and he had a credible reason, I would have believed it. What with dropping his agent after the draft,(a move I have never heard of for a top 5 pick), I thought something was odd didn't you.

He heard a tip it must have made sense and he put it out there. If you notice King started it, "I think..."

And for Defensewins the retraction is in the exact spot the original story was I don't think he buried it near the bottom at all.

Carnage · 05-17-2004, 10:38 PM

True. There is a signifigant difference between a journalist and a columnist. King gets paid to wine about NJ softball and starbusts. We are perhaps holding him to too high a standard.

offiss · 05-18-2004, 02:32 AM

Sorry I missed this,

I was at AC all weekend for a state bowling tournament, all I have to say is kudos to all here who were smart enough to use your head's and rationalize the king article for what it was, NONESENSE! Yes, just because we don't get paid for our knowledge of football, or the skin's, doesn't mean the guy who landed a paying job to write about such thing's is wiser, sound's like drkstar didn't like the call, so he's taking his ball and he's leaving!

Ghost · 05-18-2004, 02:56 AM

The guy is a horrible sportswriter, hands down one of the worst ... maybe I've been spoiled by the likes of Boswell, Povitch, Kornheiser, Wilbon, etc., but come on, all that endless crap about his daughter and I think I think, isn't that cute now here's a few rumors ... he's his own biggest fan. I understand the guy has to make a living and my hat's off to him for landing a sweet gig but his articles suck and you don't have to be a maligned Redskins fan to see that.

I'd also like to say a word of support for Matty and to a lesser degree, the other moderators. Personally I'm grateful that this site exists ... I think it's well-run, professional, very informative. Most of the people who post here know what they're talking about, and they are able to disagree, even argue angrily, without openly disrespecting each other or resorting to name-calling. I hope it stays that way. I'm pretty sure this is the best site of its kind.

BrudLee · 05-18-2004, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghost

I'd also like to say a word of support for Matty and to a lesser degree, the other moderators. Personally I'm grateful that this site exists ... I think it's well-run, professional, very informative. Most of the people who post here know what they're talking about, and they are able to disagree, even argue angrily, without openly disrespecting each other or resorting to name-calling. I hope it stays that way. I'm pretty sure this is the best site of its kind.

[sarcasm]A lesser degree?

A lesser degree?!?

[/sarcasm]

05-17-2004, 03:59 PM	#4
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	No need for me to respond to Drkstar's latest comments, no time either...too busy being self-righteous. Henceforth I shall be referred to as Pope Smootsmack! Kiss my Ring!!! As for everyone else, I would expect some of my opinions to be questioned just like I hope you expect some of yours to be questioned by me. In that same regard, we should question and debate what the paid media disseminates as well. That's the point of this forum after all isn't it? "Redskins Discussion for the Knowlegable Fan". If we all just agree with each other all the time we gain nothing from this forum and don't become any more knowlegeable than when we signed up. I don't know about the rest of you but since signing up for the warpath I feel like I've learned a lot more about the Redskins among many other things. So yeah let's continue to debate and disagree but let's do it with tact and class. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

05-18-2004, 02:32 AM	#13
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 61 Posts: 3,097	Sorry I missed this, I was at AC all weekend for a state bowling tournament, all I have to say is kudos to all here who were smart enough to use your head's and rationalize the king article for what it was, NONESENSE! Yes, just because we don't get paid for our knowledge of football, or the skin's, doesn't mean the guy who landed a paying job to write about such thing's is wiser, sound's like drkstar didn't like the call, so he's taking his ball and he's leaving! Last edited by offiss; 05-18-2004 at 05:52 AM.

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05-17-2004, 02:50 PM	#2
BleedBurgundy Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,471	Does anyone else hear dueling banjo's starting up?

05-17-2004, 04:27 PM	#6
Drift Reality Impact Rookie Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 506	Personally, I like the "righteous" moderation on this board. There are so many BBS where the conversations become ridiculous and obscene arguments between people who have never or will never actually meet one another, and if they did, wouldn't say anything abrasive. This is a well-balanced and clean BBS and I think the moderators do a fantastic job.

05-17-2004, 07:32 PM	#8
manicd Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 155	Yea, Daseal has a good point. If the mods were all bad, Daseal would be ripped on constantly. Who else has the nads to say they love(d) Spurrier. It would be boring if thier wasn't any differences here. And as stated in a previous post, you learn a lot more when you see other fans point of view. I don't know squat compared to most people on this board, so I love being educated on so many things.

05-17-2004, 07:43 PM	#9
bedlamVR Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 389	jeeze Drkstar and his ilk are like school on saturday ... they defend thier right to express an oppinion in however obnoxious way they want then when the counter argument is put across they stick thier hands over thier ears and retreat into thier caves.. Thing is peter king gets paid alot of money to check what he says at least has a touch ofthe truth ... like has been said though the most insulting thing is he thought Skins faithful would be rattled by unsubstantuated rumours... If you cannot say anything nice y'know....

05-17-2004, 08:45 PM	#10
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Bedlam - he get's paid to try to break a story first. Being fans we want the inside scoop ASAP. He tries to do that, and when you go that route, you will fail from time to time.

05-17-2004, 09:06 PM	#11
hi-jinx Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Memphis Age: 50 Posts: 180	And not only that, Kingisn't so much a reporter in the MMQB as a columnist. He's there putting is opinion out. Hell if someone came to me personally and said that Sean Taylor didn't like the Skins and he had a credible reason, I would have believed it. What with dropping his agent after the draft,(a move I have never heard of for a top 5 pick), I thought something was odd didn't you. He heard a tip it must have made sense and he put it out there. If you notice King started it, "I think..." And for Defensewins the retraction is in the exact spot the original story was I don't think he buried it near the bottom at all.

05-17-2004, 10:38 PM	#12
Carnage Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 473	True. There is a signifigant difference between a journalist and a columnist. King gets paid to wine about NJ softball and starbusts. We are perhaps holding him to too high a standard.

05-18-2004, 02:56 AM	#14
Ghost Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 298	The guy is a horrible sportswriter, hands down one of the worst ... maybe I've been spoiled by the likes of Boswell, Povitch, Kornheiser, Wilbon, etc., but come on, all that endless crap about his daughter and I think I think, isn't that cute now here's a few rumors ... he's his own biggest fan. I understand the guy has to make a living and my hat's off to him for landing a sweet gig but his articles suck and you don't have to be a maligned Redskins fan to see that. I'd also like to say a word of support for Matty and to a lesser degree, the other moderators. Personally I'm grateful that this site exists ... I think it's well-run, professional, very informative. Most of the people who post here know what they're talking about, and they are able to disagree, even argue angrily, without openly disrespecting each other or resorting to name-calling. I hope it stays that way. I'm pretty sure this is the best site of its kind.

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