Take 70Chip's Mark Brunell Rorshock Test

[skinsguy]

Probably #2. Like someone else said, if we had the defense this year we had last year, I'd probably still be at #3.

[Paintrain]

I'm a solid 2 bordering on a 1.. Let's take an objective look at Brunell.. In the past 4 years he's been benched twice by 2 different franchises, in his last 7 seasons his record is 7-9, 6-10, 6-10, 0-4, 3-6, 9-6, 3-6. Other than last year he hasn't been a successful NFL QB THIS DECADE!!!!! In his Redskin career (40 games) he has thrown for 3 or more TD 4 times. He has thrown for less than 250 yds 17 times since the beginning of last season. Someone please convince me how he gives us the best chance to win..

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

In the past 4 years he's been benched twice by 2 different franchises, in his last 7 seasons his record is 7-9, 6-10, 6-10, 0-4, 3-6, 9-6, 3-6. Other than last year he hasn't been a successful NFL QB THIS DECADE!!!!! In his Redskin career (40 games) he has thrown for 3 or more TD 4 times. He has thrown for less than 250 yds 17 times since the beginning of last season. Someone please convince me how he gives us the best chance to win..

Jesus those are bad numbers. A record of 44-56 is awful and, excluding last season, a record of 34-50 is downright pathetic.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Jesus those are bad numbers. A record of 44-56 is awful and, excluding last season, a record of 34-50 is downright pathetic.

Take into account just how bad those early decade Jacksonville teams and our 2004 team were. Pretty awful.

[skinsfan69]

#2. They should have benched Brunell the day after last season. Does anyone remember the last half of last year? Brunell was terrible! It is a struggle for Brunell to throw for 200 yards. I mean he threw for 41 yards against TB in the playoffs. How can Gibbs look himself in the mirror and think Brunell can take this team to the Super Bowl? I mean look what Rivers did today. Brought his team back on the road. Brunell just can't do that. I said this in another post. Sometimes there comes a time in a season where your QB just has to win a game or two for you. Bring you back from behind. Things aren't going right, your behind on the road and you have to lean on your QB to make plays for you. Well if we get behind then the game is basically over. AT LEAST JC has the physical ability and the skills to make things happen. Either with his arm or legs. If Gibbs starts Brunell next week then I WILL NOT watch the TB game. I've simply had enough.

[GTripp0012]

I'm still a #3 because absolutely no QB in the league would have won this game for us, but Brunell was dreadful today. He was put in the worst possible conditions (Bad weather, on the road, in the division, Portis out, trailing early, questionable playcalling, defensive scheme that attacks) and played exactly the way I would expect a guy put in those conditions to play. Ties the first Dallas game for ineptitude, although the deck was stacked heavily against him. The interception should never have been thrown.

I wouldn't make the switch this week for multiple reasons. Number 1, you don't want to break Jason Campbell in on the road when the team isn't playing well. Number 2, it would be a significant injustice to Mark Brunell to bench him after forcing him into the situation that the coaching staff and team did. Number 3, we will never play another game that is this difficult to win this season. So although we have next to nil chance to win the division, a wild card berth is a possibility if we win out against a schedule where we have all of our tough games at home, where weve been right in every contest over the last two seasons. It still would be a bad decision to try to have Campbell save the season.

The switch is certainly on the horizion though. If we as a team can't beat Tampa Bay, the switch should be made. I'm guessing this is the way Gibbs is thinking right now.

But if you are relying on a 2nd year inexpirenced player to save the franchise, you have another thing coming.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I'm still a #3 because absolutely no QB in the league would have won this game for us, but Brunell was dreadful today. He was put in the worst possible conditions (Bad weather, on the road, in the division, Portis out, trailing early, questionable playcalling, defensive scheme that attacks) and played exactly the way I would expect a guy put in those conditions to play. Ties the first Dallas game for ineptitude, although the deck was stacked heavily against him. The interception should never have been thrown.

I wouldn't make the switch this week for multiple reasons. Number 1, you don't want to break Jason Campbell in on the road when the team isn't playing well. Number 2, it would be a significant injustice to Mark Brunell to bench him after forcing him into the situation that the coaching staff and team did. Number 3, we will never play another game that is this difficult to win this season. So although we have next to nil chance to win the division, a wild card berth is a possibility if we win out against a schedule where we have all of our tough games at home, where weve been right in every contest over the last two seasons. It still would be a bad decision to try to have Campbell save the season.

The switch is certainly on the horizion though. If we as a team can't beat Tampa Bay, the switch should be made. I'm guessing this is the way Gibbs is thinking right now.

But if you are relying on a 2nd year inexpirenced player to save the franchise, you have another thing coming.

and the rings of Saturn weren't aligned with it's second moon. i've never heard more excuses for a player's performance. ever.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by illdefined

and the rings of Saturn weren't aligned with it's second moon. i've never heard more excuses for a player's performance. ever.

Trust me, living in the Chicago TV market, I've seen true, absolute offensive futility. Teams that couldn't move the ball under any situation.

The contrast between those Bear teams and this Redskin team is so stark I can't even begin to explain it to you. We were horrible today, but its one game vs. an entire season of futility.

And even today we moved the ball. We just couldn't get any points no matter what happened.

Don't act like you've, as a fan, been wronged on offense this year. Today, absolutely. This year, not even close.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Trust me, living in the Chicago TV market, I've seen true, absolute offensive futility. Teams that couldn't move the ball under any situation.

The contrast between those Bear teams and this Redskin team is so stark I can't even begin to explain it to you. We were horrible today, but its one game vs. an entire season of futility.

And even today we moved the ball. We just couldn't get any points no matter what happened.

Don't act like you've, as a fan, been wronged on offense this year. Today, absolutely. This year, not even close.

You know who you are GTripp0012? You're Rumsfeld. 70Chip is a hopeless right-wing reactionary so take it for a compliment.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

You know who you are GTripp0012? You're Rumsfeld. 70Chip is a hopeless right-wing reactionary so take it for a compliment.

compliment? McNamara, Rumsfeld, take your pick. out of touch bean counting at its worst. 'it's all right there in the numbers'

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

The contrast between those Bear teams and this Redskin team is so stark I can't even begin to explain it to you. Don't act like you've, as a fan, been wronged on offense this year. Today, absolutely. This year, not even close.

That's a bit of an overstatement. This offense, particularly the passing offense, is pretty bad. Brunell has thrown for over 200 yards in just 3 of 9 games. After today, our passing attack will be ranked in the mid-20s - a ranking that is inexcusable considering the weapons we have on offense.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Trust me, living in the Chicago TV market, I've seen true, absolute offensive futility. Teams that couldn't move the ball under any situation.

The contrast between those Bear teams and this Redskin team is so stark I can't even begin to explain it to you. We were horrible today, but its one game vs. an entire season of futility.

And even today we moved the ball. We just couldn't get any points no matter what happened.

Don't act like you've, as a fan, been wronged on offense this year. Today, absolutely. This year, not even close.

don't compare the bears with our Skins. not with the money we're paying, and not with the draft choices we've given up for these players.

your stats job won't work this time Tripp. not when a big majority of our yards come from our no.2 receiver Ladell Betts on futile 3rd down plays. Lloyd, ARE and Cooley haven't even broken 200 yards, and Portis was on a career low. does that sound right to you? and all that didn't happen from this game, nor was it caused by Kenny Wright, or some other excuse i'm sure you'll come up with.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by illdefined

ot when a big majority of our yards come from our no.2 receiver Ladell Betts on futile 3rd down plays. Lloyd, ARE and Cooley haven't even broken 200 yards, and Portis was on a career low. does that sound right to you? and all that didn't happen from this game, nor was it caused by Kenny Wright, or some other excuse i'm sure you'll come up with.

Apparently Brunell is only expected to play well in the sunshine, at home, and against non-division opponents.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by illdefined

don't compare the bears with our Skins. not with the money we're paying, and not with the draft choices we've given up for these players.

your stats job won't work this time Tripp. not when a big majority of our yards come from our no.2 receiver Ladell Betts on futile 3rd down plays. Lloyd, ARE and Cooley haven't even broken 200 yards, and Portis was on a career low. does that sound right to you? and all that didn't happen from this game, nor was it caused by Kenny Wright, or some other excuse i'm sure you'll come up with.

So stark I couldnt begin to explain it.

I pretty much have the same opinion of Brunell's day as the rest of you. If you read my posts, you'd know that. My only point is its a bad situation to play Campbell next week on so many levels.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I'm still a #3 because absolutely no QB in the league would have won this game for us, but Brunell was dreadful today. He was put in the worst possible conditions (Bad weather, on the road, in the division, Portis out, trailing early, questionable playcalling, defensive scheme that attacks) and played exactly the way I would expect a guy put in those conditions to play. Ties the first Dallas game for ineptitude, although the deck was stacked heavily against him. The interception should never have been thrown.

I wouldn't make the switch this week for multiple reasons. Number 1, you don't want to break Jason Campbell in on the road when the team isn't playing well. Number 2, it would be a significant injustice to Mark Brunell to bench him after forcing him into the situation that the coaching staff and team did. Number 3, we will never play another game that is this difficult to win this season. So although we have next to nil chance to win the division, a wild card berth is a possibility if we win out against a schedule where we have all of our tough games at home, where weve been right in every contest over the last two seasons. It still would be a bad decision to try to have Campbell save the season.

The switch is certainly on the horizion though. If we as a team can't beat Tampa Bay, the switch should be made. I'm guessing this is the way Gibbs is thinking right now.

But if you are relying on a 2nd year inexpirenced player to save the franchise, you have another thing coming.

You make an excellent case. I feel myself being pulled back towards the #3 position. Give it one more week.