Skins stuck at No. 6?

[charlielyons]

i say go with landry, draft DE in the later rounds, cut springs at the end of the year

[skins009]

You guys don't know shit about football. We need a d-lineman so bad it hurts. Taking any other position with the 6th pick would be dumb.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skins009

You guys don't know shit about football. We need a d-lineman so bad it hurts. Taking any other position with the 6th pick would be dumb.

Was that first line called for, at all? No, no it wasn't

[SmootSmack]

For the record, I would agree that D-line help should be our first priority

[charlielyons]

Originally Posted by skins009

You guys don't know shit about football. We need a d-lineman so bad it hurts. Taking any other position with the 6th pick would be dumb.

well i agree to a point, but there are no amazing d-lineman worth the 6th pick.......great ballhawks are far few in between......if there was like a julius peppers there or a jason taylor no question d-lneman

[BangCartoon]

Originally Posted by skins009

You guys don't know shit about football. We need a d-lineman so bad it hurts. Taking any other position with the 6th pick would be dumb.

The problem here is Greg Blache doesn't really believe in pressure from the ends.. he'd rather bottle up the middle and pressure from other areas.
I think you're right that we need to go DL, but I think to pick one at 6 would not be necessary. Personally, I would like to trade down and go after Okoye, and if we don't go Dl, Landry.

And I do know my shit.

~Bang

[charlielyons]

Originally Posted by BangCartoon

The problem here is Greg Blache doesn't really believe in pressure from the ends.. he'd rather bottle up the middle and pressure from other areas.
I think you're right that we need to go DL, but I think to pick one at 6 would not be necessary. Personally, I would like to trade down and go after Okoye, and if we don't go Dl, Landry.

And I do know my shit.

~Bang

i know my shit too, if we stay at 6 we need to go landry.....i would like to trade down too like to 15 and pick up jarvis moss and a second round pick

[holcknowsbest]

Originally Posted by skins009

You guys don't know shit about football. We need a d-lineman so bad it hurts. Taking any other position with the 6th pick would be dumb.

your right........but you dont draft on needs in the draft, its all about the best player available...that will be laron landry, sorry pal or should we just call you coach.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by skins009

You guys don't know shit about football. We need a d-lineman so bad it hurts. Taking any other position with the 6th pick would be dumb.

Wow, that was harsh chief.

[KLHJ2]

There is always the option of taking the best available player and then trading him outright for a player that we really want and need, maybe an additional pick as well. That way the number 6 pick still gets paid like a number 6 pick. But now we have bargaining power for a player that we want and possibly an additional pick.

[KLHJ2]

So in every one's opinion there is no DL in the draft worthy of a top 10 selection?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by angryssg

So in every one's opinion there is no DL in the draft worthy of a top 10 selection?

I think, in my opinion at least, there are several good lineman but none particularly stand head and shoulders above the rest. For example DT Okoye is seen as top 10 pick, while DT Justin Harrell is seen as a bottom of the first round pick. I think the gap talent wise is much smaller than that

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think, in my opinion at least, there are several good lineman but none particularly stand head and shoulders above the rest. For example DT Okoye is seen as top 10 pick, while DT Justin Harrell is seen as a bottom of the first round pick. I think the gap talent wise is much smaller than that

Ok I can see where you are comming from.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think, in my opinion at least, there are several good lineman but none particularly stand head and shoulders above the rest. For example DT Okoye is seen as top 10 pick, while DT Justin Harrell is seen as a bottom of the first round pick. I think the gap talent wise is much smaller than that

Interesting point. I don't think that, as a general matter, the talent gap between a top 10 pick and top 30 pick is that significant. IMHO the trade value chart is all out of whack. Didn't Jimmy Johnson create it? If so, that figures.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think, in my opinion at least, there are several good lineman but none particularly stand head and shoulders above the rest. For example DT Okoye is seen as top 10 pick, while DT Justin Harrell is seen as a bottom of the first round pick. I think the gap talent wise is much smaller than that

As I said in earlier thread on this subject, I don't want to waste a #6 pick on a lineman just because we have a need, only to find out next draft we have the same need. Unless 1 of these linemen can dominate his position we should either trade down, and maybe get a merriman out of miami, and a Jarvis Moss/Carriker type. Or draft the best safety in the draft, Landry, He would make a huge difference compared to AA whom teams attacked at will. We also know that there are teams picking behind us that want him so it's great strategy to start giving him a big look, that will give us leverage to start trading down, how bout we move 2 spots and gain a 2nd rd pick from Atlanta who apparently is in love with Landry. Now that would give us some more bargaining power to trade down again perhaps with Carolina for a 3rd, and just maybe 1 more trade for a 2nd or 3rd before we start addressing several needs rather than 1.