Wacks the political Bee's Nest

[SmootSmack]

Yeah that Jay London guy on LCS was pretty funny...scary too. Guess I'll be rooting for Alonzo now

I watched Trading Spouses: Meet Your New Mommy today. That was just odd

[SmootSmack]

Bipartisan laughs:
http://www.jibjab.com/

(did someone post this already? I've lost track)

[illdefined]

thats the point. its not a laughing matter. just read the 900th G.I. died over there.

[Sammy Baugh Fan]

It's 1000 lives lost in Iraq.
If this was WWII the number would be over 140,000 lives
If it was Korea it would be 15,000 lives
If it was Viet Nam it would be 11,000 lives
If it was the first Gulf War it would be 1,500 lives.

peace
mike

[illdefined]

does that make it ok then? especially under the false circumstances?

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Sammy Baugh Fan

It's 1000 lives lost in Iraq.
If this was WWII the number would be over 140,000 lives
If it was Korea it would be 15,000 lives
If it was Viet Nam it would be 11,000 lives
If it was the first Gulf War it would be 1,500 lives.

but between this and a picture of a gun to a candiate's head,
this is how you sign your posts.

Originally Posted by Sammy Baugh Fan

peace
mike

:confused-

[Sammy Baugh Fan]

Originally Posted by illdefined

but between this and a picture of a gun to a candiate's head,
this is how you sign your posts.




:confused-

I am honest when I say I wish you peace. I wish the world peace but as an non-active duty Marine I understand that tough things have to be done in this world and tough people do it. As for the Kerry picture if you can't see that was posted in absolute humor then it's you sir that has an issue and yes you are confused.

Have a great day folks and....you guessed it

peace
mike

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Sammy Baugh Fan

I am honest when I say I wish you peace. I wish the world peace but as an non-active duty Marine I understand that tough things have to be done in this world and tough people do it. As for the Kerry picture if you can't see that was posted in absolute humor then it's you sir that has an issue and yes you are confused.

and Bush is tough? doesnt it surprise you that out of all this 'tough' administration, the only REAL soldier, Colin Powell, was against it? in the end he followed orders, just like the soldiers who died in this costly, needless war. you tell me why this 'needed' to be done, or is being 'tough' its own reason?

you know whats a CONFIRMED weapon of mass destruction? airplanes. we'd have Bin Laden by now (he also has a beard, but is NOT Saddam Hussein) if we put half the resources we put into Iraq into Afghanistan. instead Bush gave Bin Laden thousands more recruits worldwide by showing off just how 'tough' he is. and for what? what uniform has this 'tough guy' ever really worn? go ahead say that silly flight suit...

im certainly confused about your 'peace' signature, why you don't expect Bees to come from the nest you deliberately stur, and most of all why you think this election can be looked at with 'absolute humor'. its the most serious election in my lifetime. yes i have issues. i live in downtown manhattan, and the last thing this president makes me feel is SAFER.

[MTK]

It's amazing to me that no WMD have been found and the evidence all points to the fact that we went to war over false information yet Bush just blows it off and says oh well. He even seems bothered when he's challenged on the issue. What ever happened to accountability? We're sending our soldiers to their death and for what? Because we considered Saddam to be a 'threat'? That's fine but we should have checked, double checked and triple checked our info and actually found some hard evidence before we marched off to war and had the gov't approve billions of dollars for the effort... which our children's children will be paying for. Another thing that's always bothered me is how we can have people starving, homeless and without quality educations yet we can never 'find' enough $$ for that, but once there's a war all of a sudden billions of dollars become available, but that's a topic for another day.

So what's stopping us from invading other countries we consider to be a threat to our national interests? Oh that's right nothing, we're the US, the world bullies errrrrr world police.

[Redskins_P]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

It's amazing to me that no WMD have been found and the evidence all points to the fact that we went to war over false information yet Bush just blows it off and says oh well. He even seems bothered when he's challenged on the issue. What ever happened to accountability? We're sending our soldiers to their death and for what? Because we considered Saddam to be a 'threat'? That's fine but we should have checked, double checked and triple checked our info and actually found some hard evidence before we marched off to war and had the gov't approve billions of dollars for the effort... which our children's children will be paying for. Another thing that's always bothered me is how we can have people starving, homeless and without quality educations yet we can never 'find' enough $$ for that, but once there's a war all of a sudden billions of dollars become available, but that's a topic for another day.

So what's stopping us from invading other countries we consider to be a threat to our national interests? Oh that's right nothing, we're the US, the world bullies errrrrr world police.

I agree with everything you say Matty. My question is: Whatever happened to the hunt for Ossama Bin Laden?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Redskins_P

I agree with everything you say Matty. My question is: Whatever happened to the hunt for Ossama Bin Laden?

Well, the US ties to the Saudi family is probably a good place to start, more specifically the well documented Bush-Bin Laden family ties. Add in the fact that Bush was just dying for a reason to get revenge for his daddy and there you go, Saddam is public enemy #1.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

It's amazing to me that no WMD have been found and the evidence all points to the fact that we went to war over false information yet Bush just blows it off and says oh well. He even seems bothered when he's challenged on the issue. What ever happened to accountability? We're sending our soldiers to their death and for what? Because we considered Saddam to be a 'threat'? That's fine but we should have checked, double checked and triple checked our info and actually found some hard evidence before we marched off to war and had the gov't approve billions of dollars for the effort... which our children's children will be paying for. Another thing that's always bothered me is how we can have people starving, homeless and without quality educations yet we can never 'find' enough $$ for that, but once there's a war all of a sudden billions of dollars become available, but that's a topic for another day.

So what's stopping us from invading other countries we consider to be a threat to our national interests? Oh that's right nothing, we're the US, the world bullies errrrrr world police.

Well that is incorrect of coarse, they have found sarin gas,which is a WOMD, which Sadam said he didn't have, he also continually denied weopons inspector's access to monitor whether or not he was trying to develope WOMD, as demanded by the U.N. resolution, after the first gulf war, that alone is cause enough to go in and take him out of power, end of story! The fact is, the reason he denied inspector's access is because he was up to no good, which also allowed him time to move any technology that he had out of the country, or bury it, I also ask what WOMD did Bin Laden have? None! Yet he was able to do tremendous damage, and now all I here is liberal after liberal coming out of the wood work, trying to say Bush, who had been in office 8 month's, didn't do enough to prevent it, so now he's doing what he has to do to keep us safe in the future, and all the liberal's say is, why are we going after poor old Sadam and the rest of his regime? Hypocrites! Case and point, both John Kerry, and Bill Clinton, have stated that so long as Sadam is in power America is not safe, they have both stated that Sadam has weopon's of mass destruction, I didn't here any demilib's crying about the great stain maker when he started dropping bomb's on Sadam when Monika's dress was being tested for his DNA, all of a sudden, Sadam was a threat, and soon as the dress incident cooled down, Sadam was no longer a threat, hmmmmm, I have to assume that if Kerry believes as he has stated that Sadam has, or had WOMD, that he would have done something about it, to [in his mind] keep us safe, then I also have to assume that no democrate could vote for him in good conscience, reason? 1, he would have gone after Sadam because of his belief of the danger of WOMD in Sadam's hand's, and of coarse there are none. Or they are there, or wore, and he refuses to do what's neccesary to keep American's safe, by taking Sadam out, and doing what is neccasary to prevent another 9/11 or worse, I am not worried about our children's, children's financial burden right now, I would rather make sure thier parent's are alive to make sure that they are born, how many children wont make it into this world because of 9/11? I bet right now they wouldn't mind having to work, and help pay for this war so they can live, and live in a free country at that.

America Bullies? That's the biggest crock yet! we are not the ones who surpress thier own country men, like half the countries in the world, follow the party line or be jailed, or killed, refusing to allow people to have an opinion other than what the govering authority will allow you, why don't you take a long hard look at how many of his own people Sadam killed, with yes, weopon's of mass destruction! I guess we have our nerve after being attacked on our soil, and watching as 3000 people die because someone just doesn't like us, to now take the initiative to make as sure as possible that doesn't happen again, and if it does, may God forbid! We will be sure to hear how it was all Bush's fault, that he didn't do enough!

If there is any chance that all info on WOMD is wrong, then to bad, it's nobody's fault but Sadam's, he's the one who refused the U.N. resolution, which lead to having to rely on possible speculation, Sadam bare's the responsibility all by himself! Why after 9/11 people would not rejoice at the downfall and removal of this butcher of a leader, is beyond me.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by offiss

Well that is incorrect of coarse, they have found sarin gas,which is a WOMD, which Sadam said he didn't have, he also continually denied weopons inspector's access to monitor whether or not he was trying to develope WOMD, as demanded by the U.N. resolution, after the first gulf war, that alone is cause enough to go in and take him out of power, end of story! The fact is, the reason he denied inspector's access is because he was up to no good, which also allowed him time to move any technology that he had out of the country, or bury it, I also ask what WOMD did Bin Laden have? None! Yet he was able to do tremendous damage, and now all I here is liberal after liberal coming out of the wood work, trying to say Bush, who had been in office 8 month's, didn't do enough to prevent it, so now he's doing what he has to do to keep us safe in the future, and all the liberal's say is, why are we going after poor old Sadam and the rest of his regime? Hypocrites! Case and point, both John Kerry, and Bill Clinton, have stated that so long as Sadam is in power America is not safe, they have both stated that Sadam has weopon's of mass destruction, I didn't here any demilib's crying about the great stain maker when he started dropping bomb's on Sadam when Monika's dress was being tested for his DNA, all of a sudden, Sadam was a threat, and soon as the dress incident cooled down, Sadam was no longer a threat, hmmmmm, I have to assume that if Kerry believes as he has stated that Sadam has, or had WOMD, that he would have done something about it, to [in his mind] keep us safe, then I also have to assume that no democrate could vote for him in good conscience, reason? 1, he would have gone after Sadam because of his belief of the danger of WOMD in Sadam's hand's, and of coarse there are none. Or they are there, or wore, and he refuses to do what's neccesary to keep American's safe, by taking Sadam out, and doing what is neccasary to prevent another 9/11 or worse, I am not worried about our children's, children's financial burden right now, I would rather make sure thier parent's are alive to make sure that they are born, how many children wont make it into this world because of 9/11? I bet right now they wouldn't mind having to work, and help pay for this war so they can live, and live in a free country at that.

America Bullies? That's the biggest crock yet! we are not the ones who surpress thier own country men, like half the countries in the world, follow the party line or be jailed, or killed, refusing to allow people to have an opinion other than what the govering authority will allow you, why don't you take a long hard look at how many of his own people Sadam killed, with yes, weopon's of mass destruction! I guess we have our nerve after being attacked on our soil, and watching as 3000 people die because someone just doesn't like us, to now take the initiative to make as sure as possible that doesn't happen again, and if it does, may God forbid! We will be sure to hear how it was all Bush's fault, that he didn't do enough!

If there is any chance that all info on WOMD is wrong, then to bad, it's nobody's fault but Sadam's, he's the one who refused the U.N. resolution, which lead to having to rely on possible speculation, Sadam bare's the responsibility all by himself! Why after 9/11 people would not rejoice at the downfall and removal of this butcher of a leader, is beyond me.

Shouldn't Bin Laden have been our main target from day one? That's what I have a problem with. Saddam is no saint and needed to be dealt with eventually but the person who was behind the whole 911 operation is still out there at large and is still very much a threat to the US, yet I don't see the US going after him with the same fervor we went after Saddam with.

It just makes one question our governments true intentions.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Shouldn't Bin Laden have been our main target from day one? That's what I have a problem with. Saddam is no saint and needed to be dealt with eventually but the person who was behind the whole 911 operation is still out there at large and is still very much a threat to the US, yet I don't see the US going after him with the same fervor we went after Saddam with.

It just makes one question our governments true intentions.

I here ya, But let's face it we have him on the run, the objective is to stop another 9/11, and you have to figure that there will alway's be someone else looking to step up and take Bin Laden's place, times are changing.

[MTK]

lol

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