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Old 05-06-2007, 01:59 AM   #1
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Old 05-06-2007, 02:11 AM   #2
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am i the only person that feels like we have 5 linebackers playing and is worried about that? I mean i love ST but i dont consider him a very good cover safety
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Old 05-06-2007, 02:30 AM   #4
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am i the only person that feels like we have 5 linebackers playing and is worried about that? I mean i love ST but i dont consider him a very good cover safety
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am i the only person that feels like we have 5 linebackers playing and is worried about that? I mean i love ST but i dont consider him a very good cover safety
Look they are both fast so it really doesn't matter much. In GW's Defense I don't believe that there is a difference between the two. He does the same but different things with both. What I have noticed is that in his defense there are 11 football players and they all pretty much do everything, and that means play defense.
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Old 05-06-2007, 03:18 AM   #6
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Look they are both fast so it really doesn't matter much. In GW's Defense I don't believe that there is a difference between the two. He does the same but different things with both. What I have noticed is that in his defense there are 11 football players and they all pretty much do everything, and that means play defense.
Well, except for last year. Last year they did everything but play defense.

Also, I think what most people expected after drafting LL is that we wanted to have two players who could be interchangeable and keep defenses guessing. It appears, after GW's comments, that that is not exactly the case. We will in fact see more of ST patrolling the deep part of the field, and see more of LL up close to the line of scrimmage, that's why he is differentiating their positions clearly, something he didn't do last year. I think what we may have seen last year with Sean, is that he is better suited playing with the ball in front of him. I sense that his apparent drop in coverage ability was perhaps more a result of him having to do things he is not best suited for. LL frees him up to cover ground as the play unfolds and make plays in the air. Of course, they will not be predictable because both can do a lot of things, but their roles are already being outlined. The real unpredictability factor is going to come from who's blitzing and who's covering out of the remaining players not named Sean. With LL up close to the line, you don't know what he's going to be responsible for: Blitz? Cover the TE or RB? Run support? Drop out on a WR while a CB blitzes the edge? His versatility will open up the defensive playbook. That, and the fact that we'll have head hunters on both levels behind the line of scrimmage, is what will keep our opponents up at night.
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Well, except for last year. Last year they did everything but play defense.

Also, I think what most people expected after drafting LL is that we wanted to have two players who could be interchangeable and keep defenses guessing. It appears, after GW's comments, that that is not exactly the case. We will in fact see more of ST patrolling the deep part of the field, and see more of LL up close to the line of scrimmage, that's why he is differentiating their positions clearly, something he didn't do last year. I think what we may have seen last year with Sean, is that he is better suited playing with the ball in front of him. I sense that his apparent drop in coverage ability was perhaps more a result of him having to do things he is not best suited for. LL frees him up to cover ground as the play unfolds and make plays in the air. Of course, they will not be predictable because both can do a lot of things, but their roles are already being outlined. The real unpredictability factor is going to come from who's blitzing and who's covering out of the remaining players not named Sean. With LL up close to the line, you don't know what he's going to be responsible for: Blitz? Cover the TE or RB? Run support? Drop out on a WR while a CB blitzes the edge? His versatility will open up the defensive playbook. That, and the fact that we'll have head hunters on both levels behind the line of scrimmage, is what will keep our opponents up at night.
I think that you may have their roles reversed a little. If the skins are going to put a safety in the box it should be Taylor not Laron.
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I think that you may have their roles reversed a little. If the skins are going to put a safety in the box it should be Taylor not Laron.
That's what I was kind of thinking pre-draft, but according to our defensive coordinator it's the other way around. The entire interview is on redskins.com. It makes sense, too.

ST is the perfect jump ball saftey who dishes out a lot of punishment. He has the height, speed, hops and wingspan to break up plays, get interceptions and intimidate WR's. The over the middle pass is his domain. Coming into our house and going over the middle is going to be a dangerous chore with him patrolling the middle, we just need to reign him in a tad so he doesn't bite on the fake. If he's close enough to make the play, he is exceptionally suited to that role.

LL is the hunt down the play ball hawk who can blitz, tackle and cover. He'll be hard to spot because of his stature and versatility. You come around that corner on the sweep, and there he is, driving you into the ground, that is, if he isn't already around the edge on a blitz wrapping you up before you even get there.

On third and long, they'll split the field in halves and they'll both patrol back there, pick your poison.
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I think that you may have their roles reversed a little. If the skins are going to put a safety in the box it should be Taylor not Laron.
I think I will trust Gregg Williams on this one.
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am i the only person that feels like we have 5 linebackers playing and is worried about that? I mean i love ST but i dont consider him a very good cover safety
I'm with you. right now the skins have 2 safety's who lack in coverage skills. that worked pretty well last year with Taylor and Arch, huh? i do not like this pick at all
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It sounds more like Williams has looked at the tape and realized that there was a lot of confusion in the secondary last year. This is going to be a way to simplify things. Having Laron frees up the corner blitzes again. It also will help Taylor's coverage in that Taylor won't have to play run first and then try to recover. That's what was killing him last year. He was always trying to do two things, covering for other guys.

I thought that having Landry would make he and Taylor interchangable and help desguise the defense. I still think that he will do that, I just think that Williams has decided to limit Taylors role so that he can stop thinking and just play. He can disguise the defense using Landry by blitzing from safety, corner or LB.
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I'm with you. right now the skins have 2 safety's who lack in coverage skills. that worked pretty well last year with Taylor and Arch, huh? i do not like this pick at all
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I'm with you. right now the skins have 2 safety's who lack in coverage skills. that worked pretty well last year with Taylor and Arch, huh? i do not like this pick at all
I do consider Landry to be a good cover safety. Taylor's a hitter. Landry has the complete game...or at least he will once he gets some NFL experience.

Still, its hard to justify passing on a once in a lifetime prospect (Okoye) at a need position.

Love the player (Landry), hate the pick.
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I do consider Landry to be a good cover safety. Taylor's a hitter. Landry has the complete game...or at least he will once he gets some NFL experience.

Still, its hard to justify passing on a once in a lifetime prospect (Okoye) at a need position.

Love the player (Landry), hate the pick.
i guess this is sort of what i was trying to say. with a draft very deep in defensive linemen, why not take one?
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I do consider Landry to be a good cover safety. Taylor's a hitter. Landry has the complete game...or at least he will once he gets some NFL experience.

Still, its hard to justify passing on a once in a lifetime prospect (Okoye) at a need position.

Love the player (Landry), hate the pick.

and how was okoye a once in a lifetime prospect
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