Goodell grants limited reinstatement to Pacman Jones

[LMsexyAO]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Hate to say it and it will piss people off, but if Pacman stays out of trouble and regains his form, this will have been a very shrewd move. They got a shut down corner for next to nothing. Plus throw in Tank Johnson another young, talented but troubled player and MLB Zack Thomas, their defense suddenly has the potential to be one of the top in the NFC.
The Cowboys are young and talented. A good combination. Questions is can they keep these guys out of jail?

Let the Cowboys pick up all the trash of the league, it'll only make us look better when we beat them down with players who have character. This rivalry is really shaping up to be Good versus Evil and I'm happy with the side we've chosen.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Hate to say it and it will piss people off, but if Pacman stays out of trouble and regains his form, this will have been a very shrewd move. They got a shut down corner for next to nothing. Plus throw in Tank Johnson another young, talented but troubled player and MLB Zack Thomas, their defense suddenly has the potential to be one of the top in the NFC.
The Cowboys are young and talented. A good combination. Questions is can they keep these guys out of jail?

I think both guys will be fine. Pacman is a total 100% fool. But I think he knows he's hanging by a thread and knows he can't screw up again or he's done. Since coming to Dallas Tank J. has kept his nose clean. Dallas very quietly has gotten two quality young players. Think about it. It's pretty hard to get arrested.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Hate to say it and it will piss people off, but if Pacman stays out of trouble and regains his form, this will have been a very shrewd move. They got a shut down corner for next to nothing. Plus throw in Tank Johnson another young, talented but troubled player and MLB Zack Thomas, their defense suddenly has the potential to be one of the top in the NFC.
The Cowboys are young and talented. A good combination. Questions is can they keep these guys out of jail?

Why is anyone going to get pissed off??

If it works out for them great. They are rolling the dice and there's little downside for them. Good for them. Frankly I don't care either way. To say he's a shutdown corner is overstating things a bit. He's a good return man and a good #2 corner. He's not an elite #1 type of corner though.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Why is anyone going to get pissed off??

If it works out for them great. They are rolling the dice and there's little downside for them. Good for them. Frankly I don't care either way. To say he's a shutdown corner is overstating things a bit. He's a good return man and a good #2 corner. He's not an elite #1 type of corner though.

Especially after not seeing a football throw at him in 500+ days.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Why is anyone going to get pissed off??

If it works out for them great. They are rolling the dice and there's little downside for them. Good for them. Frankly I don't care either way. To say he's a shutdown corner is overstating things a bit. He's a good return man and a good #2 corner. He's not an elite #1 type of corner though.

He was on his way to being a shut down corner. I agree that to call him that now or the last time he played would be overstating, but his game was improving before he got suspended & he's got the talent.

He's had no serious injuries to my knowledge & unless he's gotten really fat by not playing, he should be back in form by mid season. If so, He & Newman will be about as good as any cb duo I can think of.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

He was on his way to being a shut down corner. I agree that to call him that now or the last time he played would be overstating, but his game was improving before he got suspended & he's got the talent.

He's had no serious injuries to my knowledge & unless he's gotten really fat by not playing, he should be back in form by mid season. If so, He & Newman will be about as good as any cb duo I can think of.

According to who or what criteria?

Just for a point of reference Scouts Inc. has him graded as a 70, which puts him in the middle of the pack at his position.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

He was on his way to being a shut down corner. I agree that to call him that now or the last time he played would be overstating, but his game was improving before he got suspended & he's got the talent.

He's had no serious injuries to my knowledge & unless he's gotten really fat by not playing, he should be back in form by mid season. If so, He & Newman will be about as good as any cb duo I can think of.

I still think that having that much time go by and not practicing on an NFL roster is going to have an effect. I don't think you can just pop out of a couch, or strip club in this instance, and dominate the NFL ranks. This guy is going to have deficiencies that won't be overcome in just one year.

He's got a new defense to learn and will probably be filling a new positional role on defense. Maybe he holds his own this year, but I still don't think he'll dominate.

[MTK]

C'mon there's just no defending pacman.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

C'mon there's just no defending pacman.

Seriously.

If I were the FBI, I'd be investigating anybody who does try to defend Pacman. Because if you're defending him, you're either deranged or have no respect for the law. Or you don't know the facts of Pacman's run-ins, in which case you shouldn't open your mouth.

[Defensewins]

Why isn't Pacman in jail if he did all that you are saying?

[MTK]

He accepted a plea and received a suspended one year prison sentence, probation, and community service.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

What makes me crazy is that Goodell has been such a hard ass to EVERYONE and now all of a sudden he thinks Pacman gets a second chance?

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

What makes me crazy is that Goodell has been such a hard ass to EVERYONE and now all of a sudden he thinks Pacman gets a second chance?

Actually at the time Pacman was suspended I thought it was a pretty serious punishment. He hadn't been charged w/anything at the time & he hadn't clearly violated any nfl rules. He was the first to be suspended under Goodell's conduct policy if I'm correct.

The personal conduct policy as I understand it, leaves a lot more room for judgement on the severity of each case, whereas rules such as the substance abuse policy have clear punishments per offense.

[killromo]

C'mon guys we're from Washington. We should know all about politics. The cowboys are the flagship of the league, "america's team" I saw this coming the day they got pacman. You don't want to upset the cry baby jerry jones and the money he brings the league. I would be surprised if pacman gets in any trouble before sept 1st. If he stays in dallas he could probably shoot someone and not even get arrested with the weight the cowboys carry around their area. If he was anywhere else he wouldn't be close to coming back.

[mooby]

It is my opinion that Goodell needs to be more consistent with his punishment. Guys like Odell Thurman (I'm not defending him here, just saying that what he did hardly pales in comparison to Pacman) get 2 years suspension, while Pacman, who broke the law plenty of times before Goodell suspended him, and still got in trouble with the law even after Goodell told him to stay out of trouble, is only gonna get a 1 year suspension despite the fact it's proven he has no respect for authority or law. That and the way Goodell handled Spygate makes me lose a lot of respect for the commish.

Jerry Jones and Robert Kraft must be close to the commish because it's very apparant that he treats them different in my mind. If Pacman gets in trouble again and Goodell fails to punish him and the Cowboys (The reason I include the Cowboys in this is because of Goodell's new rule that teams have to be accountable for their players actions with the law) then I will have very little respect for the commish.