New contracts for Andre Carter and Randle El

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

So for the people that complain my question is...if we don't restructure, what else can the team do? Wouldn't cutting some of these guys would affect our cap more? I know that restructuring is not a good thing, but isn't it a lesser of two evils?

No and I'll tell you why

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

No and I'll tell you why

Yes?

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

No and I'll tell you why

Never thought of that Dirtbag.

[horse]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

So for the people that complain my question is...if we don't restructure, what else can the team do? Wouldn't cutting some of these guys would affect our cap more? I know that restructuring is not a good thing, but isn't it a lesser of two evils?

Thats what I'm saying. Maybe ARE did'nt do the job he thought he should and took a cut, I say good for him.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

So for the people that complain my question is...if we don't restructure, what else can the team do? Wouldn't cutting some of these guys would affect our cap more? I know that restructuring is not a good thing, but isn't it a lesser of two evils?

you eventually have to pay the piper. You can't keep giving these older players these types of deals. randel el is 29 and if that extension kicks in through 2015, he'll be like 35 or so making pretty damn good money for a guy that hasn't produced in his peek years. Same goes for Carter. This is why we dont have quality depth, why we have aging players making too much money to cut. You have to get rid of these guys when there best days are behind them, like the Eagles, Patriots seem to do and fill the spots with young guys. Its just the same old crap from the Front Office.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

you eventually have to pay the piper. You can't keep giving these older players these types of deals. randel el is 29 and if that extension kicks in through 2015, he'll be like 35 or so making pretty damn good money for a guy that hasn't produced in his peek years. Same goes for Carter. This is why we dont have quality depth, why we have aging players making too much money to cut. You have to get rid of these guys when there best days are behind them, like the Eagles, Patriots seem to do and fill the spots with young guys. Its just the same old crap from the Front Office.

The Patriots let's their star players walk away when they are free agents (Adam V. and Rodney Harrison) and trade them when they are in their prime (Deion Branch). Also bad idea using the Patriots as an example, as they bring old players and make them work (i.e. Junior Seau).

[CRedskinsRule]

I am just glad to see actual team news, hopefully we will see good steps towards getting the best possible group of guys for next season!

[Skinny Tee]

Well Campbell said going into the offseason that you may see some unexpected turnover with the offense.

Could Randle El's signing secure his spot with us and leave Moss's in doubt? If El is still here who is going to be the unexpected offensive Redskins not with us next year?

Moss could be dangling on a trade string as we speak.

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Well Campbell said going into the offseason that you may see some unexpected turnover with the offense.

Could Randle El's signing secure his spot with us and leave Moss's in doubt? If El is still here who is going to be the unexpected offensive Redskins not with us next year?

Moss could be dangling on a trade string as we speak.

I guess anything is possible, but that move would be very unlikely. And If I had to guess Moss is going nowhere.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

I guess anything is possible, but that move would be very unlikely. And If I had to guess Moss is going nowhere.

I don't want to see Moss go anywhere. But we sign El to an extension, and so much is at stake with D.Thomas and M.Kelly given their draft status. So if we don't get rid of Moss, we've got our receiving corps for the next few years it would seem. And that may very well be the case. It just means we're relying really heavily on last years rookies. That worries me.

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I don't want to see Moss go anywhere. But we sign El to an extension, and so much is at stake with D.Thomas and M.Kelly given their draft status. So if we don't get rid of Moss, we've got our receiving corps for the next few years it would seem. And that may very well be the case. It just means we're relying really heavily on last years rookies. That worries me.

And I really don't see it happening, so no worries. As we all want to see Kelly, Thomas & Davis step up, it is unproven now. Or at least case one of the 2nd year wideouts being an impact player this season,hopefully.

With that said, thrash should be gone. That leaves us with Moss,ARE, Kelly, Thomas, Cooley, Davis in no special order. Half are already good proven talent at WR's/TE's the rest to be determined. The 2nd year kids on the team have to step up.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

And I really don't see it happening, so no worries. As we all want to see Kelly, Thomas & Davis step up, it is unproven now. Or at least case one of the 2nd year wideouts being an impact player this season,hopefully.

With that said, thrash should be gone. That leaves us with Moss,ARE, Kelly, Thomas, Cooley, Davis in no special order. Half are already good proven talent at WR's/TE's the rest to be determined. The 2nd year kids on the team have to step up.

Yeah I feel the same about Thrash, he is totally a non-factor on offense.

The list of WRs and TEs, on paper at list, is impressive IMO. I hope these kids are putting it together in the offseason for a big aerial surprise come regular season. Cooley/Davis is a sick TE combination and I'm anxious to see what Zorn can do with a couple of blocking/pass-catching monsters.

[PennSkinsFan]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Well Campbell said going into the offseason that you may see some unexpected turnover with the offense.

Could Randle El's signing secure his spot with us and leave Moss's in doubt? If El is still here who is going to be the unexpected offensive Redskins not with us next year?

Moss could be dangling on a trade string as we speak.

Oh please I hope not. I simply don't understand this team's obsession with ARE. Unless you use him like he is supposed to be sued, as a third WR, other than that, he sucks.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan

Oh please I hope not. I simply don't understand this team's obsession with ARE. Unless you use him like he is supposed to be sued, as a third WR, other than that, he sucks.

The obsession is that Randle El does his job (complementary receiver) better than any receiver on the team does their own job, including Moss.

And the problem of course, is that Randle El is not capable of running all the routes, because his effectiveness pretty much ends at 20 yards. So they can't just move Moss unless they think one of the young guys can handle the go-to receiver role.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

The obsession is that Randle El does his job (complementary receiver) better than any receiver on the team does their own job, including Moss.

And the problem of course, is that Randle El is not capable of running all the routes, because his effectiveness pretty much ends at 20 yards. So they can't just move Moss unless they think one of the young guys can handle the go-to receiver role.

Honestly even though Moss is our best WR...he doesn't exactly fill that go to role either. We don't have that player. Moss dissapears for weeks at a time. Moss is a good player but not good enough or consistent enough to be an effective #1 WR. I would move him if a reasonable trade offer was there. That would force one of these young WR's to sink or swim as the #1 WR and see what happens. With Moss & El back on this team next year those young guys are going to get minimal opportunities and probably not progress that much.